On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 21:04:32 -0700, sf wrote:

> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:45:56 -0600, Christine Dabney
> > wrote:
>
>>I don't see it that some of those things were a total revolution in
>>themselves, but what fruit they bore in the long run.
>
> That "chimney" idea didn't spring up out of thin air. My grandfather
> used coffee cans and he put holes around the bottom with a church key.
> It wasn't his idea (as far as I know) was courtesy of Grandma, who was
> a County Extension Agent in Michigan back in the day ('50s-60's)
> before she retired and they moved to join us in sunny Calif. Grandpa
> didn't drink coffee or beer, so you know he was an advocate of those
> chimneys because he had to get can donations from his friends.

i seem to recall using a jerry-rigged version in the boy scouts, which
would have been around the mid-sixties.

your pal,
blake