brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> "Pete C." > wrote in message
> ster.com...
> >
> > Andy wrote:
> >>
> >> Kajikit said...
> >>
> >> > I've always used Philadelphia cream
> >> > cheese to make my cheesecake, but they've put so much gunk into it
> >> > nowadays that they don't even call it 'cream cheese' any more! Take a
> >> > close look at the label (and the ingredients list) some day and see
> >> > what I mean...
> >>
> >> Kajikit,
> >>
> >> It's not even made in Philadelphia!!!
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Andy
> >
> > Nor is it cheesecake since cheesecake dos *not* have a crust...
>
> Absolute bullshit. You're obviously no cheesecake maven, very likely never
> made a cheesecake.

I've made plenty of real cheesecakes, even cryo-froze some and shipped
them across the country. All have received rave reviews.

>
> Most cheesecake has a crumb crust, most popular being graham cracker crumb
> (usually plain but chocolate grahams too). My famous Reese's cheesecake has
> a peanut butter cookie crumb crust. Many recipes call for a vanilla snap
> crumb crust, chocolate snap, ginger snap too... some use struesel,
> marzipan... choices are infinite.

Many people make stuff with crusts and call it "cheesecake" even though
it isn't. It's rather like that Chicago deep dish "pizza" that isn't.

Pies have crusts, cakes do not. Cheesecake is baked in a spring form pan
with *no* crust.