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Default TN Vertical Hermitage La Chapelle

On Dec 10, 2:51�pm, DaleW > wrote:
> On Dec 10, 2:11 pm, "Bi!!" > wrote:
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> > On Dec 10, 12:44 pm, DaleW > wrote:

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> > > On Dec 10, 10:53 am, "John T" > wrote:

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> > > > we'll use them as> Guinea pigs on this win

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> > > > will be interested in the 82 showing.

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> > > > And Thalabert often performs above it's pay grade, haven't you found?

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> > > > Yes Bill, but this was a serious step up.

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> > > > JT

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> > > Thanks for notes. I hope my lone bottle of '99 Thalabert shows as well
> > > as this! I agree that it was often an overachiever , I;ve still got an
> > > '85 ( I know that's pushing it)
> > > Your bottle of '83 La Chapelle showed better than one we had a couple
> > > years ago.
> > > I tend to find Jaboulet has more bottle variation than most, even in
> > > the flagship bottlings.

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> > I have a ton of La Chapelle from the late 80's through 2000 and the
> > vintages are textbook examples of vintage variation but I haven't
> > noticed a lot of bottle variation. I always bought case lots so that
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> I'd say the La Chapelle shows it less than the other wines, but I
> still have run across very very different showing from different
> bottles, even though both should have had good storage. That can be
> true of any wine,but I seem to have run across more with Jaboulet,
> even La Chapelle (actually the Thalabert seems more consistent to me).
> Of course, my calling it bottle variation might be a subconscious
> Jaboulet bias, as I strongly feel their larger negociant bottlings
> (Les Jalets, P45) �are poster children for bottle variation (or to be
> more correct, batch variation, as I strongly suspect they are not
> consistently the same wine).- Hide quoted text -
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I guess I assumed that in cases that the bottles are consecutive from
the bottleing line and the "batch" should be the same. I understand
that bottle variation can come from a variety of sources (storage,
corking, dirty bottles) I just haven't seen a lot of bottle variation
in the La Chapelle from the same case lots. The vintage variations
are HUGE and I often use LaChapelle to show people how different wine
can be from vintage to vintage from the same vineyard. FWIW, I often
use Penfolds to show how Aussie wines tend to taste the same from
vintage to vintage.