"Bertie Doe" wrote
> "Sheldon" < wrote in message
> Chemiker wrote:
>> I've having trouble finding a decent recipe that works properly in
>> my Breadman ultimate. Any body got one that gives a decent
>> crumb and crust? Please let me know your take on adding
>> gluten, if you would.

>>There's no such thing as NY rye. You can't make Jewish sourdough rye
>>in a bread machine... needs to be made the old fashioned way and even
>>then it ain't easy.

True.

> Chemiker, if you wish to make a sourdough rye, as Sheldon states, you
> can't use the breadmaker for the whole process. However, if you wish to
> use the 'Dough Cycle' [1] the machine gives pretty good results and
> someone will recommend a rye sourdough, if that's what you want.

I took a different tactic and gave him one that will work. I even have the
same breadmaker machine (Ultimate plus Breadman). I like the lighter white
flour texture but it works well with whole wheat in place of the white as
well.

Oh Chemiker? Forgot to answer the gluten question. I advise added gluten
as rye isnt very high in gluten. Definately need it if using whole wheat
vice white 'better for bread' flour.