Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Mon 15 Sep 2008 04:24:33p, Dave Smith told us...
>
>> John Kane wrote:
>>
>>>> I'm not against helping people in need! How many times do I have
>>>> to say that? I have a problem with deliberate freeloaders! There
>>>> are those that even feel that welfare recipients should be drug
>>>> screened...
>>>
>>> What freeloaders? The press may talk about 'freeloaders' but I bet
>>> they're awfully hard to find on the ground.
>>
>>
>> I don't know that many people on welfare, but I can think of a few
>> who were definite abusers. I spoke before of a family I knew on
>> welfare who spent most of their time online. Every in the family had
>> a their own computer, all state of the art.The father sabotaged
>> every job he eventually got. One daughter got student welfare
>> because he could not live with her family, but spent most of her
>> time at home with the family she could not live with, and the older
>> daughter set out to get pregnant during her first year of college.
>>
>> Then there is one of the kids who got caught breaking into my house.
>> He came from a welfare family, but at the age of 17 had his own car.
>> Not to mention one of his his burglary buddies, living on student
>> welfare.
>>
>> When I was working in commercial vehicle I came across a guy driving
>> under suspension. He was on his way to the local welfare office to
>> pick up his welfare cheque. He had a truck with NY plates and a NY
>> driver licence, and he is in Ontario to pick up his welfare cheque?
>> I called the welfare office to tell him that a NY resident was on
>> his way in to pick up a welfare cheque. They didn't want to know
>> about it until I asked if they preferred that I call the local
>> newspaper.
>
>>> Perhaps you should call your local welfare office and ask?
>>
>> See above.
>>
>
> I can remember a time, many years ago in Cleveland, where it was
> common to see many welfare recipients pulling up to the welfare
> offices in their new Cadillacs to pick up their checks.
>
> I know things aren't quite like that now, but it's an image one
> doesn't forget.

I went to the Welfare office before with a friend of mine. Some of these
women wanting benefits had the "bling-bling" jewelry draped up their arms,
all around their necks, in their ears and wrapped around their fingers.
They let their kids run all around the office, screaming, and I think we
pulled up in the most raggedy car. My friend is a single mom with two kids
and got evicted from her apartment because the job she had couldn't afford
to pay the rent when her boyfriend walked out on them. She had a minimum
wage job at a convenience store and needed some sort of assistance, whether
it be food stamps, temporary shelter or welfare. They denied her all three
things because she made $6 an hour, part time. She made too much money.
She left there crying after we had been waiting for about 4 hours.

What did she do? She and her girls lived out of her car until she found a
single guy with money who she didn't care about, but sucked up enough to,
for him to let her move in with the kids. Sad.

kili