On Sep 14, 4:13*pm, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> "John Kane" > wrote
>
> On Sep 14, 1:46 pm, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>
> >> Where I live they put a 5 year lifetime limit on welfare. Last
> >> I heard, you didn't get extra funds if you had additional children
> >> after you were on welfare. That's a simple overview, but you
> >> get the idea. Training programs were set up for people who
> >> needed it.
>
> >> It might not be perfect, but it's a step in the right direction.
> >> Nothing wrong with If you can work, work.
> >Where do you live and has anyone actually looked at the results of
> >this idea?
> >Every once in a while some state or province or country tries
> >something this dumb and it flops because it is a stupid political
> >response to a complex socio-economic problem.
>
> You really seem to like the welfare solution. *I wonder why.

I don't but even less do I like the simplistic "cut them off'" ideas
etc.

I have actually seen some of these people in real life. A lot of
them have minor little problems like serious physical disabilities
that the provinical government won't acknowledge so they cannot get a
disbility pension, instead they are on welfare.

Others are not mentally stable enought to work regularly or suffer
from serioius learning disabilities that make holding a job
difficult.

Others are too old, or too young.

So far every idiotic cut off the welfare idea that I have seen does a
lot more damage than good both to those who are cut off and to others
in the society.

>
> >It really sound like a good idea until you start to think of what
> >happens when people get tosssed off welfare.
> >Of course, a lot just die so that helps solve the problem. *This is
> >what happens when you just cut welfare payments not stop them
> >completely.
>
> I said it was a simple overview. *The plan is not a simplistic
> as you have latched onto.

Well it certainly sounded that way.
>
> >Drug dealing is always an attractive option particularly if it is
> >combined with membership in a elite gang with cool colours.
>
> You're right. *Welfare is the cure for drug dealing.
>
> nancy

Well, it may not cure it but it cuts down on the desperate competition
that leads to drive-by shooting etc. No welfare, no poor kid
graduates from Gr. 8 let alone high school. It builds a permanent
underclass, which I guess the USA has already admitted that it has.


John Kane Kingston ON Canada