While intrepidly exploring the bowels of USENET on Tuesday, August 12,
2008, rolled initiative and posted the following:

> On Aug 12, 7:39 pm, Derek > wrote:
>
>>I argue that vaporization of water is insufficient for the creation of "air."
>
> Now it's insufficient?! So now you agree that I'm partly right. Pretty
> soon you'll be in full agreement with my first view lol.

By "insufficient," I mean "wholly insufficient." I'm not likely to
agree with your first view.

>>>>>> Evaporation produces H20 in the air. It's still water. It doesn't
>>>>>> produce nitrogen or free-standing oxygen, which make up the majority
>>>>>> of our air.
>>
>>>>> So what does it produce? Dirt? What does steam produce? Dirt?
>>>>> Funny how you never answer this.
>>
>>>> Water vapor from evaporation later condenses in the high atmosphere
>>>> and comes back down as precipitation.
>>
>>> "Later" what about "sooner" and "in between time"? Air. You breathe
>>> some amount of evaporated water every day and with every breath. Why
>>> do you continue to duck this fact?
>>
>> I don't "duck" this fact.
>>I argue that vaporization of water is insufficient for the creation of "air."
>
> You've just ducked it again. You won't admit that a portion of what we
> breathe is evaporated air! Admit I'm right and be done with it.

No, I don't read further down.

>>>> It never stops being water.
>>
>>> Beeep. Wrong answer. Water can shed oxygen (do you understand H2O?).
>>
>> Yes, if you subject it to electrolysis, which I've already mentioned.
>> Boiling water produces H2O vapor, not H2 and O.

> Wrong again. Didn't you do this experiment in highschool? Maybe you
> haven't got that far yet. It's about grade 7. Heat a pint of water in
> a kettle with a huge balloon tied to the spout. The balloon will
> quickly fill so big it bursts. Stop before it bursts. Let it condense.
> The water will pool. Drain the water. What's left? You tell me.

Yes, I did that experiment. The water vapor fills the balloon, as well
as causing the existing air to warm and expand. If you let it cool
down, ALL of the water vapor will condense back into a liquid.

But it never stops being water.

> Don't play footsie here, answer the question.

That sounds like a line from "A Few Good Men."

>>> Depending on what "scientific" source you believe. And not all air is
>>> the same. The air is full of stuff. Furthermore oxygen levels were
>>> much higher thousands of years ago depending on what sources you
>>> believe.
>>
>> All of which is irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
>>
>> Higher levels of oxygen millennia ago do not mean that boiled water
>> suddenly becomes unassociated hydrogen and oxygen.
>
> Who said it did?

You, with your assertion that water boiling on hot lava gave us air.

>> I said that water vapor mixes with air.

> Where? That was my argument almost word for word !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Dude what you been smoking? Honestly.

No. It's the reverse of your argument. You cannot mix a larger volume
into a smaller one. The devil is in the details.

He also, apparently, went down to Georgia.

> I can't waste more time with you. You win! I give up. I cry uncle. At
> least you've been ontopic and I thank you for that.

Actually, I've been completely off-topic, as nothing I've written in
response to you is about tea.

> I'll wait for someone else to take the batton from you.

They can pry the baton out of my cold, dead hand.

--
Derek

Nice guys get sick.