Dutch wrote:
> SystemX wrote:
>> Dutch wrote:
>>> SystemX wrote:
>>>> Dutch wrote:
>>>>> SystemX wrote:
>>>>>> Dutch wrote:
>>>>>>> SystemX wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dutch wrote:
>>>>>>>>> SystemX wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Vegans do consume dairy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even by their own lax standards, vegans cannot consume dairy
>>>>>>>>> and still legitimately call themselves vegans.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I mad e a mistook. - A bad one - I missed the important word
>>>>>>>> 'not'. I guess you worked that out for yourself, but hey, why
>>>>>>>> not score a point.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BTW - I'm self identifying myself as God.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That was redundant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just making a point that; self identification is not reliable
>>>>>>>> identification:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You mean you don't identify yourself as God?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Including animals?
>>>>>
>>>>> All things, flowers, animals.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> You ought to, we are all God.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't believe in God. I seem to hover between being an agnostic
>>>>>> and an atheist.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't "believe in God" in the conventional sense either, but, how
>>>>> to put it.. there is a powerful force in the universe intelligent
>>>>> beyond all comprehension constantly manifesting itself in a
>>>>> multitude of ways, the most advanced of these being the self-aware
>>>>> human being. That force is living in each of us, it is in a very
>>>>> basic sense "who we are". I believe this is what is behind the
>>>>> spiritual teachings and the original meaning of God.
>>>>
>>>> Stop dreaming.
>>>>
>>>> We are nothing but animals on a planet.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's a pretty blasé perspective. Whatever floats your boat though..
>>
>> Nothing blasé about fact.
>>
>>
>
> Facts aren't blasé, perspectives can be.

It is a fact that "We are nothing but animals on a planet". What
evidence would lead you to come to a different perspective?

What evidence do you have for this wishy washy notion of God as an
"organising force"?