Dutch wrote:
> SystemX wrote:
>> Dutch wrote:
>>> Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>> SystemX wrote:
>>>>> SystemX wrote:
>>>>>> Dutch wrote:
>>>>>>> SystemX wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dutch wrote:
>>>>>>>>> SystemX wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Vegans do consume dairy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even by their own lax standards, vegans cannot consume dairy
>>>>>>>>> and still legitimately call themselves vegans.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I mad e a mistook. - A bad one - I missed the important word
>>>>>>>> 'not'. I guess you worked that out for yourself, but hey, why
>>>>>>>> not score a point.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BTW - I'm self identifying myself as God.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That was redundant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just making a point that; self identification is not reliable
>>>>>>>> identification:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You mean you don't identify yourself as God?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Including animals?
>>>>>
>>>>> This is related to your statement about "we are all God".
>>>>
>>>> I think it was clear Dutch was restricting "we" to humans.
>>>
>>> In the way I used the term I meant everything, not only humans, not
>>> only animals and plants, everything.
>>>
>>> In this sense God is the organizing force in all matter and life,
>>> humans being the most ambitious manifestation of that force.
>>
>> There is no 'force'.
>
> No force? That is hardly a plausible response. At the very least there
> are many forces operating independently. There's a force in you that
> gets you up in the morning.

No; there is no 'organising force'. There is no 'force' that gets me up
in the morning. (Apart from the PHYSICAL one that changes a body from a
state of rest to one of motion).

>
>> It is entirely evolutionary.
>
> What is "it"?

"life"

>I didn't say anything about development of species.

> Question, why does life bother to occur?

It doesn't 'bother' it just occurs.

>Why does lichen live on high
> mountain ridges where it is -100 degrees with almost no air? Why do
> animals struggle to live in Antarctic winter? Why do flowers bloom?

Try Wikipedia.

> Seems like a lot of trouble just to die a short time later. What is
> driving all this frenetic activity? Seems to me like there is some kind
> of driving force.

You are mistaken, possibly misled by those around you.

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