"William Hershman" > wrote in message news:2HOwc.11127$HG.9007@attbi_s53...
> "Derek" > wrote in message ...
> >
> > There can be no doubt that if one abstains from
> > farmed animal products, then one would cause
> > less farmed animals to suffer and die. Something
> > analogous would be;
> > 1) If abstain from lighting bonfires, then I cause
> > less pollution.
> >
> > Both premisses stand or fall together.
>
> There's all kinda doubt.

Then show where, else my premiss remains true.
As you've said so yourself, "I don't challenge either
one. I can't.", therefore my conclusion stands;
3) I cause less farmed animals to suffer and die.