rick etter wrote:

> "Fools Gold" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> Jonathan Ball wrote:
> Rogi Surta wrote:
> > Totally wrong my friend. You are sadly misinformed. Cattle are one of the
> most
> > destructive food sources Americans use. The calorie per bushel of grain
> invested
> > to meat is far less efficient than direct human consumption of the same
> grain.
> You are misinformed, you top-posting goofball. The
> grain cattle eat is not considered edible by humans.
> It is grown AS livestock feed.
> Anyway, your sense of "efficiency" is irrelevant and
> misguided. The goal in producing food is not to get
> the highest caloric value from the smallest possible
> resource input, and you're not even proposing that we
> do that. You can prove it for yourself by looking at
> the resource requirements to grow a bushel of potatoes
> versus the requirements to grow a bushel of
> raspberries. You aren't proposing that we grow and
> consume only the most resource-efficient vegetables, so
> the idea that meat be produced and consumed is no
> different.
> A Mercedes-Benz requires more resources to produce than
> a Kia, you dummy, but you're not proposing that people
> ONLY should have Kias available for purchase.
> > The number of acres of rain forests cleared each year in south america to
> raise
> > the cattle for fast food industries alone (a notoriously empty calorie
> food
> > source) is nothing more than rape of the earth.
> Bullshit. You're an ignorant environmental extremist.
> You're also full of shit in your claim that the
> calories are "empty".
>
> Grain production is the point, not what kind it is. Are you so ****ing dumb
> that you can not grasp this simple point? - resources it takes to get a
> calorie of meet - versus a calorie of grain? This is what we call science.
> =======================
> Yes, let's discuss that simple comparison. Grains for your consumption
> require massive amounts more in resources than many meats. Why is that that
> seems to be above your head? Where is the massive inputs from the
> petro-chemical industry for grass-fed meats? Where is the massive
> petro-chemical industry for game? I'll tell you where the massive
> petro-chemical industry is, it's in the production of your cheap,
> convenient, grow 'em as fast and cheaply as possible using whatever
> resources it takes veggies. But then, it's not really about a vegan doing
> 'better', is it? It's about the sanctimonious hypocrisy that makes them
> feel better. Forget the fact that they kill more animals than they need to,
> because their convenience and entertainment come brefore actually saving any
> animals.
>
> Let me guess, now you are going to try to insult me by calling a scientist?
> ========================
> Hardly. Your ignorance is too great for that label...
>
> Maybe you might even call me educated, that would really hurt my feelings!
> ==================
> Naw, not even that. Unless you count 6th grade as an education...
>
> I am not alone in purposing gas economy cars over gas guzzling-Saudi
> Arabia-supporting cars.
> An empty calorie is a common term referring to high sugar/ fat content while
> being low in nutrients. You seem to be a very uneducated person. Are you by
> any chance a cultural decedent of the klu klux klan? A white southern
> Protestant?
> ======================
> Ah, the last refuge of those that know their argument is lost, call the
> other person a racist. You really are that ignorant, aren't you?
>
> Calling me an environmentalist means what? That I am not so self-centered
> and arrogant that I care about leaving for my children a world that can
> sustain them?
> Let me guess, you are one of those common fat people that cares only about
> living forever in heaven and could give a flying **** that our children will
> live in a caldron of 6 billion plus humans fighting over the last scraps of
> territory on this shrinking planet.
> Anyone that thinks it is an insult to be called an environmentalist has got
> to be a very selfish ignorant person! My money is on you being a decedent of
> a white southern protestant christian. A slave owning, civil rights
> violating, bible swinging, camel through the eye of a needle, hates the
> educated, hillbilly!
> Check this out and then talk to me http://www.2think.org/dhw.shtml
> who's next?
> ===============
> You. Stick a fork in yourself, you're toast, killer!
>
> snippage...

Typical response from a punk. He is more than happy to **** with anyone he dam
well pleases and when a bully bigger and smarter than him gives him a taste of
his own medicine what does he do. He says "your toast"

Well where is the butter smart ass? Here is some of your own style of shit right
back at you:

You know many of us are creative with the fake names we create. I look at yours
and think, "what is he saying?" "Rick Etter" do a little variation on that and
what do you get?

DICK EATER!

I am more than happy to play by your rules you pussy!