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> "Michael Balarama" > wrote in message
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> > > "Michael Balarama" > wrote in message
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> > > > > ta wrote:
> > > > > > Is there any reason a proper, healthy vegan diet cannot supply
all
> > of
> > the
> > > > > > necessary vitamins and minerals without supplementing?
> > > > >
> > > > > A lot of planning would have to go into such a diet to assure
getting
> > > > > the proper RDA of vitamins and minerals. One would especially have
to
> > > > > pay attention to zinc, iron, and B-12. In the real world,
> > > > > supplementation *is* necessary since most veg-ns don't pay
attention
> > to
> > > > > what they eat except to make sure their food has no animal parts.
> > > >
> > > > because of the mass farming, pollution and stuff-there are not all
the
> > > > vitamins we need in the vegetables and fruit..it is a good idea to
> > > > supplement...
> > >
> > > Michael, you hit on a key secondary question that I was hoping to
address
> > > as well. That is, to what extent, if any, has the quality of human
food
> > > degraded to the point where supplementing is necessary? Naturally (no
pun
> > > intended) human beings didn't always have vitamin pills, nor did they
> > > probably need them. In other words, shouldn't we be able to get
absolutely
> > > everything we need from the food we eat, and if not, why not? You hit
on a
> > > couple of reasons, but if you have any specific sources on that, I'd
> > > appreciate it.
> >
> > This might hlep-Eric the Programming director at our TV station-is a
> > vegan...
> > I asked him for help...
> > From what I was taught, you are correct, the soil is depleted of
nutrients
> > due to innappropriate commercial use of land. Also, we thoroughly wash
the
> > fruits and veggies, which counteracts us getting the bacteria we need
that
> > produces B12 in our colons. I don't have specific sources, but I would
> > start him off on Dr. Schulze's stuff. As for books, tell him to look up
> > Herbert Shelton (a pioneer in natural hygiene movement in america.
> >
> > Eric
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> > > The reason I ask is because it seems entirely "unnatural" to have to
take
> > > supplements. Thanks.
> > >
> > >
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> This is an interesting discussion to me because I work with a
> supplement manufacturer that frequently comments about the issue of
> soil depletion, and why this makes it so important to take supplements
> (like theirs). I've never been completely clear if that angle is
> "junk science" for the sake of marketing more product, or if there's a
> factual basis.
>
> I'd be real interested to know if anyone can direct me to independent
> research that backs this up factually...

If they read the old testament, even God instructed man to use the land with
a set of rules. Organic farmers tend to follow these rules more closely
than commercial farming practices. Use the land for 6 years, and the
seventh year is a Sabbath (rest) for the land. Every seventh land Sabbath,
the land is not to be used for growing for 7 years. Organic farmers section
off their land and use half of it for 4 years and the other half the next
four years (or something like that). This allows the land to recuperate
lost nutrients and makes the fruits and veggies grow full of nutrition.