Bertazzoni gas range
sf wrote:
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> On Fri, 02 May 2008 10:08:44 -0500, "Pete C." >
> wrote:
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> >sf wrote:
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> >> On Fri, 02 May 2008 09:52:18 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" >
> >> wrote:
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> >> >
> >> >"sf" <.> wrote in message ...
> >> >> On Fri, 02 May 2008 02:21:48 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>The most difficult problem is
> >> >>>trying to replace the Seimens made screen for the control panel that is
> >> >>>now
> >> >>>obsolete.
> >> >>
> >> >> Well, obsolete is the *main* problem. Unless Seimens has taken a big
> >> >> fall of late, they are highly regarded and completely reliable.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >When you spend $200,000, you don't want to hear obsolete five years later
> >> >and need a new model at $25,000 plus programming. The new models of display
> >> >are going to crap too in a couple of years. This is for a display that would
> >> >have cost about $1200 new.
> >> >
> >> Obsolete is in the eye of the beholder. When you're talking about a
> >> $200,000 model, you're talking about something meant to be used in a
> >> commercial establishment.
> >> 1. It might have paid for itself in 5 years, if it didn't then you
> >> need to rethink your business plan.
> >> 2. Replacing it is part of your normal business expense if the newer,
> >> fancier, model will do what you need done more cost effectively.
> >
> >You apparently know nothing of the investments or business models of
> >machine shops and manufacturing in general. This type of equipment is
> >expected to have a service life measured in decades, like 20 years
> >minimum, and even then it is not thrown out, it is sold to smaller shops
> >who will operate it for another decade or two.
> >
> >The huge manufactures producing millions of a given product can and do
> >change equipment more frequently to maximize production speed. The tens
> >of thousands of smaller manufactures and general machine shops where a
> >machine may be producing a particular part for only a week or two before
> >changing to something completely different don't have the luxury of
> >optimizing for a single task.
> >
> >And, yes, I spent 5 or 6 years servicing CNC machines in a wide variety
> >of shops, so I have some idea what I'm talking about.
>
> Thanks. You reinforced what I said.
Yes, that you are an idiot.
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