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Jonathan Ball
 
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Default No need for farm animals.

****WIT David Harrison wrote:

> On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 21:49:38 -0600, Keynes > wrote:
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>>>If there was a smaller population broken up into villages, etc. then sure,
>>>we wouldn't need farm animals, but we do right now.
>>>
>>>-Rubystars

>>
>>It's just customary. Pre WWII folks in the US ate less than half as
>>much meat per capita. A political candidate ran on the platform
>>of 'a chicken in every pot'. Even meat on sundays was a luxury
>>for many (bacon possibly excepted).
>>
>>Now we have an obesity-diabetes problem that's becoming epidemic.
>>There's an indian tribe split by the mexican border. Those on the US side
>>are nearly 100% obese and diabetic. Those on the mexican side kept their
>>traditional diet and don't even have those problems.
>>
>>There's also the problem with the stink and pollution of
>>factory farming and the increased likelyhood (near certainty)
>>of epidemic e coli and salmonella infections. I don't mention the
>>morality of killing animals.

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>
> The biggest diference between raising animals for food and
> not doing so is the animals' lives, not their deaths. They don't
> exist before they're born, or (as far as we know) after they are
> killed, so their lives are what is important.


No, their lives are utterly without moral meaning.

It is MEANINGLESS that they "get to experience life".
On a moral level, no one cares. It does not in any way
justify our use of them. If we may ethically use them,
as I believe we may, it is not because we "provided
them with life".

> Raising animals for food provides life,


That is morally meaningless.


>
>>Animals kill animals even if we don't.
>>All life feeds on other life. Those poor birds, mice, snakes and
>>bugs in the fields are eating one another. But if I had to kill animals
>>to eat myself, I would only do it in times of direst emergency.
>>
>>It takes about nine pounds of feed to make a pound of beef,
>>not counting quite a bit of water both for cows and feed.

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>
> Grass raised beef


Is something you, ****WIT, do not eat. Stop talking
about it.