"rick etter" > wrote in message >...
> "Purple" > wrote in message
> om...
> > wrote in message
> >. ..
> > > On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 02:33:12 -0500, "Allyb" > wrote:
> > >
> > > >Karla, the flaw I see in your reasoning is that to satisfy the demand
> for
> > > >meat and dairy in this country, it's not possible to raise enough
> animals on
> > > >grass.
> > >
> > > That's not what is being discussed, which I feel sure you are aware
> of.
> > > What is being discussed is why tofu involves more animal deaths than
> > > grass raised beef does, and why rice milk involves more animal deaths
> > > than grass raised cow milk does. (Rice milk also involves more deaths
> > > than soy milk, which involves more deaths than grass raised cow milk...
> > > are you unable to understand why?)
> > > But since you brought it up, we have no reason to believe that this
> > > country could be fed if no farm animals were raised at all, which is
> what
> > > "ARAs" want. Animal products go into fertilizers and many other things
> > > that humans--including veg*ns--make much use of:
> >
> > [snip extensive list of products]
> >
> > There are vegan alternatives for many, perhaps all of the items you list.
> ================
> LOL And you really think they are made without the death and suffering of
> animals? What a hoot!
No but the claim that veganism requires it's followers to avoid, eg toothpaste
is verifiably false.