Dutch wrote:

> "Rat & Swan" > wrote
>
>>
>>Bill wrote:
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>>>Rat & Swan wrote:
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>> <snip>
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>>>> Would
>>>> you stop attacking me personally if I began eating meat again?
>>
>> <snip>
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>>>> Wouldn't that make me even more of a hypocrite, given my
>>>> views (from your point of view)?
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>>>Slightly.
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>> <snip>
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>> So -- even by your standards, not buying/eating meat and other
>> animal products is in accord with my ethical views, and makes me
>> less of a hypocrite than I would be if I ate meat, bought
>> leather, etc. You agree it is an ethical advance for ME to
>> be vegan, and more in accord with my ethical views than for
>> me not to be vegan. Which is my position. What you claim is
>> that I do not do as much as I possibly could to act completely
>> in accord with my ethical views by avoiding all products which
>> may have an (undetermined, possible)number of collateral deaths
>> associated with their production. I agree.
>
>
> The question I have is, where do you find the gall to demand that other
> people come lock-step into accordance with these admitted half-measures of
> yours? What happened to my freedom to take my own half-measures as I see
> fit?

She claims that you still have that freedom; that she's
only trying to "persuade" you to change your ways.

She's lying, of course, as "veganism" has been the
signal for her ardent statism in all political matters,
as I have said all along.

>
>
>> So, since we agree on this point, could you stop attacking me
>> personally,
>
>
> Could you stop your incessant whining?

She can't. It's part of the overall mental illness.

>
>
>> and give us your reasons why you feel raising and
>> slaughtering animals for food and other products is not unethical?
>
>
> Because if you just hunted them they'd run out real fast, and if you tried
> to make stew or a pair of shoes without killing them first they'd raise a
> stink.
>
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