"Jim Webster" > wrote in message ...
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> "pearl" > wrote in message
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> > IOW... this less fertile 'marginal' land has "always" been grazed.
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> no,

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> Jim Webster wrote:
pearl wrote:
>>>>> ------- Land which is called 'marginal' is in reality essential to
>>>>> wildlife as natural habitat - it's some kind of natural ecosystem.
>>>>> Possibly including valuable human-edible and medicinal plants.---
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>>>> nonsense, you forget these landscapes were created by grazing, in
>>>> the UK water meadows, grazing marshes and the Lakeland fells and
>>>> uplands are all created by grazing animals
>>>
>>> What was there before?
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>> when?
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> because some marginal land is used for forestry and even ploughed

More recently - "a lot was done after the war" - just below.

> > And what's been said about such grazing and land degradation..?
> >
> > Basically, jim, you're well and truly hoisted by your own petard.
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> no, you just don't understand what you are talking about I'm afraid.
> The increased fertility of the lowlands is also due to grazing, grazing can
> be used to improve land where land is capable of being improved through
> grazing. Much fell land can be improved by grazing, the adding of lime and
> similar, a lot was done after the war, which means it is now inbye and
> ploughable.

IOW, so called marginal land can be used for horticulture. Very good.