Derek wrote:
>>>>>>Animals continue to die because most vegans -- even self-heralded
>>>>>>"ethical" vegans -- refuse to grow their own food on a small enough
>>>>>>scale to prevent animal deaths.
>>>>>
>>>>>That's not an honest explanation. They die because
>>>>>farmers cut corners and prefer to use pesticides
>>>>>instead of trying to improve their farming methods
>>>>>and storage facilities. It's cheaper for them and less
>>>>>labour intensive.
>>>>
>>>>Next time you send your poor wife to the store, make sure she buys only
>>>>the most expensive of each available item to ensure farmers are making
>>>>the most money possible so maybe they can afford to stop cutting
>>>>corners, as you say.
>>>
>>>My trade with farmers doesn't include a demand they
>>>cause collateral deaths during the production of veg.
>>
>>Your trade accepts the consequences of farmers' actions
>
> Mine doesn't.

Yes, it does. <restore>

....You are a very indiscriminate consumer. You seek out produce on the
basis of price rather than humane practices. Produce grown humanely is
available from farmers, and it's alternatively possible to grow your own
humane produce. You choose to ignore and avoid the more expensive (in
money or your personal time) humane alternatives. You're the reason the
farmers whose produce you purchase cut all those moral-ethical corners.
Your stance is meaningless in the face of what you do; you are a poseur,
and a rank hypocrite.