"pearl" > wrote in message
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> "Jim Webster" > wrote in message
>>
>> next time qualify your statements, rather than making such far reaching
>> claims
>
> I didn't making a far reaching claim. You misunderstood.
I just read the words you wrote
>
>> So have you evidence for 2007 in the UK ?
>
> 2008. ... desperate for feed... and there's heap big trouble ..
>
no so you don't actually have any figures for 2007 then to back up your
claim
>> oh dear, protein crops are such things as rape, soya,
>
> Yes, we know.
so your claim was just sloppy wording on your part
>
> 'Europe is struggling to find enough vegetable protein to feed its
> livestock, causing feed prices to rise. The EU imports 80 per cent
> of its feed protein needs - mainly new traits of GM soya and corn. '
> ibid.
>
>> To his friend Candidianus*
>> A. D. 468
>>
>> [1] You congratulate me on my prolonged stay at Rome, though I note the
>> touch of irony, and your wit at my expense. You say you are glad your old
>> friend has at last seen the sun, since on the Saône his chances of |21 a
>> good look at it are few and far between. You abuse my misty Lyons,1 and
>> deplore the days so cloaked by morning fog that the full heat of noon can
>> scarcely unveil them. [2] Now does this nonsense fitly come from a native
>> of
>> that oven of a town Cesena? You have shown your real opinion of your
>> charming and convenient natal soil by leaving it. The midges of Po may
>> pierce your ears; the city frogs may croak and swarm on every side, but
>> you
>> know very well that you are better off in exile at Ravenna than at home.
>> In
>> that marsh of yours the laws of everything are always the wrong way
>> about;
>> the waters stand and the walls fall, the towers float and the ships stick
>> fast, the sick man walks and the doctor lies abed, the baths are chill
>> and
>> the houses blaze, the dead swim and the quick are dry, the powers are
>> asleep
>> and the thieves wide awake, the clergy live by usury and the Syrian
>> chants
>> the Psalms, business men turn soldiers and soldiers business men, old
>> fellows play ball and young fellows hazard, eunuchs take to arms and
>> rough
>> allies to letters.2 [3] And that is the kind of city you choose to settle
>> in, a place that may boast a territory but little solid ground. Be
>> kinder,
>> therefore, to Transalpines who never provoked you; their climate wins too
>> cheap a triumph if it shines only by comparison with such as yours.
>> Farewell.
>>
>> * Partly translated by Hodgkin, i. 860, and by Chaix, i. 273. Cf. Letter
>> V.
>>
>>
>> >
>> >> >> > this is on top of using large proportions of
>> >> >> > its own arable land. Much of these imported feedstuffs come
>> >> >> > from countries suffering from poverty or environmental
>> >> >> > degradation. 95% of world soyabean production is used for
>> >> >> > animal feed.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> which is not evidence fora statement "lion's share of grain and
>> >> >> land
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> used
>> >> >> to feed animals"
>> >> >
>> >> > Evidence the lion's share of soybeans is for animal flesh,
>> >> > & severe adverse impact on people and the evironment.
>> >>
>> >> "lion's share of grain and land is used to feed animals," no mention
>> >> of
>> >> protein at all
>> >
>> > Protein isn't significant? People and the environment? Jim?
>>
>> if it is so significant why did you ignore it?
>
> That's the question *you* need to answer.
ah, you mean it is only me that is responsible?
Surely it is the responsibility of everyone who uses scarce resources,
everyone who lives in a house, has food transported to them, uses
electricity, internet
There is a sustainable level of population and production
http://tinyurl.com/2q8wg3
Jim Webster
Jim Webster