On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:54:14 -0800, Rudy Canoza
> wrote:

>Julie wrote:
>> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:46:20 -0800, Rudy Canoza
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Jette wrote:
>>>> Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>> Julie wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 14:02:13 -0000, "Jill" >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Julie wrote:
>>>>>>>> No Jim that's a blatant lie. When was the last time anyone saw
>>>>>>>> livestock grazing on a well managed arable farm?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you agree with all artificial inputs to replenish the land?
>>>>>> No. We have a choice?
>>>>> Organic farming virtually requires animal manure. But if "vegans"
>>>>> suppress animal husbandry, there won't be any manure. Kind of a
>>>>> paradox, eh?
>>>> And for those who claim to care about the animals, it seems callous to
>>>> want to slaughter all the livestock so that you can turn pasture over to
>>>> growing crops humans can eat.
>>> Well, we're going to slaughter the livestock anyway, so
>>> that's not really an issue. The big thing for
>>> "vegans"/"aras" is that they don't want any *more*
>>> livestock to exist.
>>
>> I don't think there's any room for you in this matinee jonny,
>
>I'm here,

No Jonny you're not. You're like a bad smell, a waft of something we
cant put our finger on!