On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:46:20 -0800, Rudy Canoza
> wrote:

>Jette wrote:
>> Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>> Julie wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 14:02:13 -0000, "Jill" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Julie wrote:
>>>>>> No Jim that's a blatant lie. When was the last time anyone saw
>>>>>> livestock grazing on a well managed arable farm?
>>>>>>
>>>>> So you agree with all artificial inputs to replenish the land?
>>>>
>>>> No. We have a choice?
>>>
>>> Organic farming virtually requires animal manure. But if "vegans"
>>> suppress animal husbandry, there won't be any manure. Kind of a
>>> paradox, eh?
>>
>> And for those who claim to care about the animals, it seems callous to
>> want to slaughter all the livestock so that you can turn pasture over to
>> growing crops humans can eat.
>
>Well, we're going to slaughter the livestock anyway, so
>that's not really an issue. The big thing for
>"vegans"/"aras" is that they don't want any *more*
>livestock to exist.

I don't think there's any room for you in this matinee jonny, we
already have Punch & Judy!