On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:12:49 -0400, LordSnooty > wrote:

>On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:54:11 GMT, Jonathan Ball
> wrote:
>
>>brad beattie wrote:
>>> ----- Message Text -----
>>> |But you don't only eat carrots. You eat rice and
>>> |cereal grains and all kinds of thing whose production
>>> |and distribution causes the death of animals. You
>>> |simply don't eat the animals that are killed. They are
>>> |just as dead, irrespective of if you eat them.
>>>
>>> The processes that result in carrots and rice and so forth for us to
>>> consume is not, by its nature, dependant upon the death of animals.
>>
>>Irrelevant. Animals die, and you buy the stuff whose
>>production and distribution caused the death.
>
>This is fallacy of the kind usually supported by your less intelligent
>friends like Clutch Wetter.
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Facts that veg*ns want to disregard:

6. Veg*ns contribute to most of the same animal deaths that everyone
else does by their use of wood, paper, roads, buildings, electricity,
things that contain animal by-products, and the veggies they eat.
7. Some types of meat involve fewer animal deaths than some types of
veggies.
8. Some types of meat involve less animal suffering than some types of
veggies.