Lookin' for the light so I will know which way to go. Can't see the light.

--
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And I'm Mo-Bile!

Fosco de Gamma wrote:
> Lookin' for the light so I will know which way to go. Can't see the light.

It's right here, by the stairs.
:-)

"Shawn" > wrote in message
.. .
> Fosco de Gamma wrote:
>> Lookin' for the light so I will know which way to go. Can't see the
>> light.
>
> It's right here, by the stairs.
> :-)


Do the stairs lead up or down? I wouldn't want to start walking up on the
downstairs. That'd be a recipe for disaster.

I swear though, I've got this damned delay on all my posts, and even though
I know its probably coming every time I hit send it just drives me nuts.

--
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And I'm Mo-Bile!

"Nunya Bidnits" > wrote in message
...
> Fosco de Gamma wrote:
>
>> I swear though, I've got this damned delay on all my posts, and even
>> though I know its probably coming every time I hit send it just
>> drives me nuts.
>
> Sounds like its a short trip.
>
> ;-)
>

Yup, pretty much, but the medication helps.

--
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And I'm Mo-Bile!

"Fosco de Gamma" > wrote in message
...
> Lookin' for the light so I will know which way to go. Can't see the light.


It's in the south. Ahem, The South.

TFM® - I see's ya!

Fosco de Gamma wrote:
> Lookin' for the light so I will know which way to go. Can't see the light.


Turn the switch on....

--
Steve

"Steve Calvin" > wrote in message
...
> Fosco de Gamma wrote:
>> Lookin' for the light so I will know which way to go. Can't see the
>> light.
>
>
> Turn the switch on....


In the south we'd say, cut it on.

TFM®

On Aug 30, 8:27*pm, TFM® > wrote:
> "Steve Calvin" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Fosco de Gamma wrote:
> >> Lookin' for the light so I will know which way to go. Can't see the
> >> light.
>
> > Turn the switch on....
>
> In the south we'd say, cut it on.
>
> TFM®

Really? Get outta here, cut it out.

"Nunya Bidnits" > wrote >
> In the midwest we'd say cut a fart and then check to see if the clock is
> still running.
>
> MBKC
>

See now? This is why everyone thinks you midwesterners are all such a buncha
freaks.

;-)

--
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And I'm Mo-Bile!

On 31-Aug-2008, "Nunya Bidnits" > wrote:

> TFM® wrote:
> > "Steve Calvin" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Fosco de Gamma wrote:
> >>> Lookin' for the light so I will know which way to go. Can't see the
> >>> light.
> >>
> >>
> >> Turn the switch on....
> >
> >
> > In the south we'd say, cut it on.
> >
> > TFM®
>
> In the midwest we'd say cut a fart and then check to see if the clock is
> still running.
>
> MBKC

If you was in the same room with my late Doberman when he cut a fart,
you wouldn't be able to see any clock. He turned the air to a thick green
haze that made your eyes hurt.
--
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"Brick" > wrote:
> On 31-Aug-2008, "Nunya Bidnits" > wrote:
> > TFM® wrote:
> > > "Steve Calvin" > wrote in message
> > >> Fosco de Gamma wrote:
> > >>> Lookin' for the light so I will know which way to go. Can't see the
> > >>> light.

> > >> Turn the switch on....

> > > In the south we'd say, cut it on.

> > In the midwest we'd say cut a fart and then check to see if the clock
> > is still running.

> If you was in the same room with my late Doberman when he cut a fart,
> you wouldn't be able to see any clock. He turned the air to a thick green
> haze that made your eyes hurt.

My 15 year old mutt cuts those cold, green farts. Terrible!

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Brick wrote:

> If you was in the same room with my late Doberman when he cut a fart,
> you wouldn't be able to see any clock. He turned the air to a thick green
> haze that made your eyes hurt.

Good dog. Whatta' you feed him?

Nonny

On 1-Sep-2008, Nick Cramer > wrote:

> "Brick" > wrote:
> > On 31-Aug-2008, "Nunya Bidnits" > wrote:
> > > TFM® wrote:
> > > > "Steve Calvin" > wrote in message
> > > >> Fosco de Gamma wrote:
> > > >>> Lookin' for the light so I will know which way to go. Can't see the
> > > >>> light.
>
> > > >> Turn the switch on....
>
> > > > In the south we'd say, cut it on.
>
> > > In the midwest we'd say cut a fart and then check to see if the clock
> > > is still running.
>
> > If you was in the same room with my late Doberman when he cut a fart,
> > you wouldn't be able to see any clock. He turned the air to a thick green
> > haze that made your eyes hurt.
>
> My 15 year old mutt cuts those cold, green farts. Terrible!
>
> --
> Nick.

So you've been there too! Anyone without the onsite experience will
likely disbelieve. I've had more then a few dogs, but only the one could
force people to leave the room.
--
Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)

On 1-Sep-2008, Nonnymus > wrote:

> Brick wrote:
>
> > If you was in the same room with my late Doberman when he cut a fart,
> > you wouldn't be able to see any clock. He turned the air to a thick green
> > haze that made your eyes hurt.
>
> Good dog. Whatta' you feed him?
>
> Nonny

He got "dog breeder" dry food from the local feed mill. We bought it directly
from the mill. I don't remember what the name of it was. I suspect it was a
bogus name anyway. The dogs thrived on it. He lived just ten years, but my
vet told me that was about par for the course for a large Doberman.

--
Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)

Brick wrote:
> If you was in the same room with my late Doberman when he cut a fart,
> you wouldn't be able to see any clock. He turned the air to a thick green
> haze that made your eyes hurt.

My Siberian Husky could do that too. And the problem with dog farts is
that ya can't hear 'em so they just all of a sudden cut your O2 supply!
<sneaky *******s>

--
Steve

Brick wrote:
> On 1-Sep-2008, Nonnymus > wrote:
>
>> Brick wrote:
>>
>>> If you was in the same room with my late Doberman when he cut a fart,
>>> you wouldn't be able to see any clock. He turned the air to a thick green
>>> haze that made your eyes hurt.
>> Good dog. Whatta' you feed him?
>>
>> Nonny
>
> He got "dog breeder" dry food from the local feed mill. We bought it directly
> from the mill. I don't remember what the name of it was. I suspect it was a
> bogus name anyway. The dogs thrived on it. He lived just ten years, but my
> vet told me that was about par for the course for a large Doberman.
>

When we bought a place in NC, it was out in the boondocks. I went out
with my daughter to walk the land and while there, spotted a Doberman at
the place next door. Not trusting the Doberman, when we returned with
my transit to shoot the corners of the house, I put a little PPK in my
pocket as a 'just in case.' With me on the transit and my daughter as
stick, we had 2-3 corners staked when the Doberman spotted us and came
at a gallop. The daughter sidled up to me and the Doberman came
straight on for us. I pulled the PPK out of my pocket and held it at my
side while the huge dog came up to size us up.

My daughter and I held our hands out, palm down for him to sniff. He
sniffed us both, and got so excited to see people that he literally
dribbled on the ground as he wanted to be petted and played with. He
was one of the nicest, most gentle dogs I ever encountered and when our
house was built, he was over visiting us and the kids every single day.

When I met my neighbor, it turned out he and his wife were great folk,
and they were happy the Dobie would have someone to play with during the
days, when they were working. Later on, our Chow developed about the
same relationship with the neighbors, and she and the Dobie were the
very best of friends.

Dobies can be mean, but I really think that if they're raised by nice
people, that a Dobie is a great dog and perfect for a family on a lot of
land.

Nonny

"Steve Calvin" > wrote in message
...
> Brick wrote:
>> If you was in the same room with my late Doberman when he cut a fart,
>> you wouldn't be able to see any clock. He turned the air to a thick green
>> haze that made your eyes hurt.
>
> My Siberian Husky could do that too. And the problem with dog farts is
> that ya can't hear 'em so they just all of a sudden cut your O2 supply!
> <sneaky *******s>
>

I have a Jack Russell that can rip big stinkies with the best of 'em, and
when his brother the Springer Spaniel gets into the act it can get downright
ugly.

--
It's Fosco, Dammit,
And I'm Mo-Bile!

On 1-Sep-2008, Nonnymus > wrote:

> Brick wrote:
> > On 1-Sep-2008, Nonnymus > wrote:
> >
> >> Brick wrote:
> >>
> >>> If you was in the same room with my late Doberman when he cut a fart,
> >>> you wouldn't be able to see any clock. He turned the air to a thick green
> >>> haze that made your eyes hurt.
> >> Good dog. Whatta' you feed him?
> >>
> >> Nonny
> >
> > He got "dog breeder" dry food from the local feed mill. We bought it directly
> > from the mill. I don't remember what the name of it was. I suspect it was a
> > bogus name anyway. The dogs thrived on it. He lived just ten years, but my
> > vet told me that was about par for the course for a large Doberman.
> >
>
> When we bought a place in NC, it was out in the boondocks. I went out
> with my daughter to walk the land and while there, spotted a Doberman at
> the place next door. Not trusting the Doberman, when we returned with
> my transit to shoot the corners of the house, I put a little PPK in my
> pocket as a 'just in case.' With me on the transit and my daughter as
> stick, we had 2-3 corners staked when the Doberman spotted us and came
> at a gallop. The daughter sidled up to me and the Doberman came
> straight on for us. I pulled the PPK out of my pocket and held it at my
> side while the huge dog came up to size us up.
>
> My daughter and I held our hands out, palm down for him to sniff. He
> sniffed us both, and got so excited to see people that he literally
> dribbled on the ground as he wanted to be petted and played with. He
> was one of the nicest, most gentle dogs I ever encountered and when our
> house was built, he was over visiting us and the kids every single day.
>
> When I met my neighbor, it turned out he and his wife were great folk,
> and they were happy the Dobie would have someone to play with during the
> days, when they were working. Later on, our Chow developed about the
> same relationship with the neighbors, and she and the Dobie were the
> very best of friends.
>
> Dobies can be mean, but I really think that if they're raised by nice
> people, that a Dobie is a great dog and perfect for a family on a lot of
> land.
>
> Nonny

My experience with Dobermans is limited to the one we had from puppyhood
to death from old age. Ours was brought up in a pretty secluded (for a dog)
environment and he was extremely protective. In his early years he seldom
had an opportunity to play with other dogs and that's not good. He also had
pretty limited exposure to strangers. That' not good either. He was a
stereotypical type 'A' male. He lived and played to win at all times. He loved
to play, but invariable played just a little harder then the opposition.

He never exhibited any tendency to meanness, but when provoked he would
instantly retaliate with overpowering force. He was way faster and stronger
then any dog(s) he ever encountered. If you visuallize the typical dog fight
where there's considerable growling and thrashing going on, you would be
amazed at how short a fight with our Dobie "ALWAY" was. He would grab,
shake and throw away a single dog. He would slash and spin agains multiple
dogs, creating quite a bit of damage before the inexperienced foes would
recognize a losing battle and depart the scene. I have to clarify here that he
never encountered another dog in his weight class. He usually had a good
40 lbs on them. He never chased after a departing adversary. (They never
came back either)

He sized up new human acquaintences instantly and either adopted or
rejected on an individual basis. Those he adopted were subject to being
kissed to death or crushed by his sitting in their lap or both. He adopted
our paperboy, a girl of 13 and displayed his affection by staying in
touching distance of her whenever she was present. I don't doubt that
he would attempt to kill anyone who laid a finger on her, even me. He
also adopted my (then) small grandchildred to the extent that he would
not allow their parents to spank them. That was pretty funny the first
time it happend. My son Tim exclaimed, "Pop, he was gonna take my
arm off".

I never had another dog that I would describe as "powerful" or "fast".
Frankly, he scared the daylights out me sometimes. I was always
afraid that he might hurt someone before I could intervene. We tried
training school, but alas we as owners failed the course.

ob; my text posts are showing up, but suddenly my picture posts are
not. This is my first time to experience this phenomona. Don't be
surprised if you see some duplicate picture posts.

--
Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)

On 1-Sep-2008, Steve Calvin > wrote:

> Brick wrote:
> > If you was in the same room with my late Doberman when he cut a fart,
> > you wouldn't be able to see any clock. He turned the air to a thick green
> > haze that made your eyes hurt.
>
> My Siberian Husky could do that too. And the problem with dog farts is
> that ya can't hear 'em so they just all of a sudden cut your O2 supply!
> <sneaky *******s>
>
> --
> Steve

Yup, that's a good description too. I imagine your Husky was in the size
range of our Dobie. He was 110 lbs in his prime (ok maybe he had 10 lbs
of fat on him. He was still faster then a jack rabbit).
--
Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)

On 1-Sep-2008, "Brick" > wrote:

> On 1-Sep-2008, Nonnymus > wrote:
>
> > Brick wrote:
> > > On 1-Sep-2008, Nonnymus > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Brick wrote:
> > >>

<snip>

>
> ob; my text posts are showing up, but suddenly my picture posts are
> not. This is my first time to experience this phenomona. Don't be
> surprised if you see some duplicate picture posts.

I meant over on ABF of course. I try not to post pictures here.

>
> --
> Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)



--
Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)

Nonnymus > wrote:
> Brick wrote:
> > On 1-Sep-2008, Nonnymus > wrote:
> >> Brick wrote:
> >>
> >>> If you was in the same room with my late Doberman when he cut a fart,
> >>> you wouldn't be able to see any clock. He turned the air to a thick
> >>> green haze that made your eyes hurt.
> >> Good dog. Whatta' you feed him?

> > He got "dog breeder" dry food from the local feed mill. We bought it
> > directly from the mill. I don't remember what the name of it was. I
> > suspect it was a bogus name anyway. The dogs thrived on it. He lived
> > just ten years, but my vet told me that was about par for the course
> > for a large Doberman.

> When we bought a place in NC, it was out in the boondocks. I went out
> with my daughter to walk the land and while there, spotted a Doberman at
> the place next door. Not trusting the Doberman, when we returned with
> my transit to shoot the corners of the house, I put a little PPK in my
> pocket as a 'just in case.' With me on the transit and my daughter as
> stick, we had 2-3 corners staked when the Doberman spotted us and came
> at a gallop. The daughter sidled up to me and the Doberman came
> straight on for us. I pulled the PPK out of my pocket and held it at my
> side while the huge dog came up to size us up.
>
> My daughter and I held our hands out, palm down for him to sniff. He
> sniffed us both, and got so excited to see people that he literally
> dribbled on the ground as he wanted to be petted and played with. He
> was one of the nicest, most gentle dogs I ever encountered and when our
> house was built, he was over visiting us and the kids every single day.
>
> When I met my neighbor, it turned out he and his wife were great folk,
> and they were happy the Dobie would have someone to play with during the
> days, when they were working. Later on, our Chow developed about the
> same relationship with the neighbors, and she and the Dobie were the
> very best of friends.
>
> Dobies can be mean, but I really think that if they're raised by nice
> people, that a Dobie is a great dog and perfect for a family on a lot of
> land.

I've had two Dobies over the years. They were both Attack/Obedience trained
and were both the most gentle, frolicsome friends for my family. I got
assaulted one night while walking my Dobie. Dog had the guy down before I
could say, "Shit!". Guy's arm was torn open and he had bite puncture wounds
on the face. When I said, "Sit, Monty!", he sat, but was at the ready.

There are no bad dogs, only unskillful owners!

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I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War.
They are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops.
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"Brick" > wrote:
> On 1-Sep-2008, Nonnymus > wrote:
> > Brick wrote:
> > > On 1-Sep-2008, Nonnymus > wrote:
> > >> Brick wrote:
> > >> [ . . . ]
> He never exhibited any tendency to meanness, but when provoked he would
> instantly retaliate with overpowering force. He was way faster and
> stronger then any dog(s) he ever encountered. If you visuallize the
> typical dog fight where there's considerable growling and thrashing going
> on, you would be amazed at how short a fight with our Dobie "ALWAY" was.
> He would grab, shake and throw away a single dog. He would slash and spin
> agains multiple dogs, creating quite a bit of damage before the
> inexperienced foes would recognize a losing battle and depart the scene.
> I have to clarify here that he never encountered another dog in his
> weight class. He usually had a good 40 lbs on them. He never chased after
> a departing adversary. (They never came back either)

My Dobie only had one dog fight. We were jogging on a 1/4 mile track.
Another guy was jogging with his German Shepard. Both off-leash. Without
warning or provocation, the Shep attacked Monty. Bite, twist, shake. He
ripped the shep's throat out. "And we left him there for dead, damn his
eyes!" Police came to my house for a statement. The way Monty was shmoozing
them, they knew he wasn't mean. ;-)

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War.
They are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops.
You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

On 1-Sep-2008, Nick Cramer > wrote:

> "Brick" > wrote:
> > On 1-Sep-2008, Nonnymus > wrote:
> > > Brick wrote:
> > > > On 1-Sep-2008, Nonnymus > wrote:
> > > >> Brick wrote:
> > > >> [ . . . ]
> > He never exhibited any tendency to meanness, but when provoked he would
> > instantly retaliate with overpowering force. He was way faster and
> > stronger then any dog(s) he ever encountered. If you visuallize the
> > typical dog fight where there's considerable growling and thrashing going
> > on, you would be amazed at how short a fight with our Dobie "ALWAY" was.
> > He would grab, shake and throw away a single dog. He would slash and spin
> > agains multiple dogs, creating quite a bit of damage before the
> > inexperienced foes would recognize a losing battle and depart the scene.
> > I have to clarify here that he never encountered another dog in his
> > weight class. He usually had a good 40 lbs on them. He never chased after
> > a departing adversary. (They never came back either)
>
> My Dobie only had one dog fight. We were jogging on a 1/4 mile track.
> Another guy was jogging with his German Shepard. Both off-leash. Without
> warning or provocation, the Shep attacked Monty. Bite, twist, shake. He
> ripped the shep's throat out. "And we left him there for dead, damn his
> eyes!" Police came to my house for a statement. The way Monty was shmoozing
> them, they knew he wasn't mean. ;-)
>
> --
> Nick

It's too bad about that shepherd. What you describe is a textbook case
of poor or no training. From what you describe, the shepherd "felt"
threatened and reacted automatically. There was a good episode on
animal planet not long ago where a trainer ran through that particular
training/retraining problem with live animals. I wish that my dog had
been trained well.

--
Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)

"Brick" > wrote:
> On 1-Sep-2008, Nick Cramer > wrote:
> > "Brick" > wrote:
> > > On 1-Sep-2008, Nonnymus > wrote:
> > > > Brick wrote:
> > > > > On 1-Sep-2008, Nonnymus > wrote:
> > > > >> Brick wrote:
> > > > >> [ . . . ]

> It's too bad about that shepherd. What you describe is a textbook case
> of poor or no training. From what you describe, the shepherd "felt"
> threatened and reacted automatically. There was a good episode on
> animal planet not long ago where a trainer ran through that particular
> training/retraining problem with live animals. I wish that my dog had
> been trained well.

Yeah, well . . . ? I've always hired professional trainers.

Back in '56, I paid $600 to an ex-K9 trainer, now (well, really "then") a
backwoodsman in NJ, to train Monty. Monty was AKC pedigreed and won a few
Blue Ribbons. After three weeks, I went out and spent another week being
trained with my dog. He didn't need a "KILL!" command, because he would do
whatever was necessary to protect me and him.

My second Dobie, Max, was a throwaway who I got from Doberman Rescue. Poor
boy. Even though his ears and tail were intact, his heart wasn't. I also
had him Attack Obedience traned around '88. He was a good companion.
Wonderful with the family and very obedient. He got to where he would
'down-stay' for 1/2 hour. More, if he fell asleep. Less, if he thought I
was in trouble. Poor boy. Got some kind of liver disease (no, he was a
teatoteller) and died at seven. He's buried in the back yard, next to Sespe
(another throwaway). Lilly is 15. She'll join them, eventually. ;-(

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War.
They are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops.
You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~