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Pulling and Replanting
I am thinking of pulling some Chambourcin and planting Cabernet Sauvignon in
their place. Someone said that unless you get all the roots, the remaining roots, as they die, will secrete a substance that is toxic to the new plants. Anyone have any experience in this? |
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Paul,
I replaced my Aurore, DeChaunac and Baco Noir with Vignoles and Noiret. With the Baco & Aurore, I just cut them off at the ground and planted the replacements as close as I could get. With the Baco, I planted the replacements about 2' away and kept the whole Baco vine that year, then cut off the near canes the second year, and finally cut off the trunk the third year. Just to keep production up. I could see no setback to the new vines in any case. They did just as well as any 1st year vines I've had here. YMMV. -- Mike MTM, Cokesbury, NJ, USA Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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I would hate to steer you wrong, but I have never heard this, experienced
it, read it any literature, nor heard it related in any of the vineyard management classes i've attended over the years. In my experiene, the bigger issues; 1. Removing previous vines. Vines develope very deep, strong root systems. After even a few years, getting the roots out is all but impossible. I pulles some self-rooted 3 year old Syrah a couple years beack. and we had to work terribly hard to get them out. 2. If the ivnes are 5 or more years old, might you consider grating rather than pulling and replacing? Given the years before you get significant production, this might be a more effective strategy. As I said above, I pulled and replanted some Syrah a couple years back. I replanted with Cabernet Sauvignon. I would like to move some more Syrah to CS next year - but am planning on grafting so that I don;t lose 3 years of production. Good luck! R >I am thinking of pulling some Chambourcin and planting Cabernet Sauvignon >in their place. Someone said that unless you get all the roots, the >remaining roots, as they die, will secrete a substance that is toxic to the >new plants. Anyone have any experience in this? > |
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I've got no experience with it, but grafting seems like a better thing
to try. Perhaps graft a "sucker" to the trunk the first year, and with careful vine management you may not even have a down year. Rob |
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Thanks for the information.
I thought about grafting but the Chambourcin are not grafted vines; they are self rooted. I have heard that self rooted Chambourcin do not develop deep roots like grafted vines do. My Chambourcin do not seem to be very draught resistant so this may be the case. I have three year old vinifera vines that are much more robust than the 8 year old Chambourcin with the vinifera having thicker trunks and cordons and healthier leaves. It is for this reason that I do not want to graft. I may just cut the Chambourcin off at ground level and plant next to them. Hopefully after a few years they will quit putting up shoots. "Ric" > wrote in message m... >I would hate to steer you wrong, but I have never heard this, experienced >it, read it any literature, nor heard it related in any of the vineyard >management classes i've attended over the years. > > In my experiene, the bigger issues; > 1. Removing previous vines. Vines develope very deep, strong root > systems. After even a few years, getting the roots out is all but > impossible. I pulles some self-rooted 3 year old Syrah a couple years > beack. and we had to work terribly hard to get them out. > 2. If the ivnes are 5 or more years old, might you consider grating rather > than pulling and replacing? Given the years before you get significant > production, this might be a more effective strategy. As I said above, I > pulled and replanted some Syrah a couple years back. I replanted with > Cabernet Sauvignon. I would like to move some more Syrah to CS next year - > but am planning on grafting so that I don;t lose 3 years of production. > > Good luck! > > R > >>I am thinking of pulling some Chambourcin and planting Cabernet Sauvignon >>in their place. Someone said that unless you get all the roots, the >>remaining roots, as they die, will secrete a substance that is toxic to >>the new plants. Anyone have any experience in this? >> > > |
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