as i look in the carboy it looks like the sediment is sticking to the
sides of it about half way down.is this normal or should i stirr it up
and see if it will settle to the bottom?

That is normal. If you are carefull you can rack it out of there
leavinf most of it behind. But if you knock it loose it will settle to
the bottom.


k-dawg wrote:
> as i look in the carboy it looks like the sediment is sticking to the
> sides of it about half way down.is this normal or should i stirr it up
> and see if it will settle to the bottom?

As Droopy said, this is normal. Instead of stirring, just tilt the
carboy to 4 directions and put it down to give it a bit of shake. That
tends to loose the sediment from the sides. Just make sure to do this
on a surface that's firm but gives a bit to avoid breaking the carboy
by accident.

Pp

I have had this happen when wine is clearing and it probably has noting to
do with isinglass. Take a firm grip on the carboy and give it a sharp
twist. Then take another firm grip and give it a sharp twist back. This
will usually break it loose from the sides without stirring up the bottom
too much and it will go ahead and settle to the bottom. The sharp twist
caused the glass to move rapidly while inertia tries to keep the fluid
still. This tends to rip the stuff off the sides. Of course the fluid will
start turning a bit. then the sharp twist back will put even more rip on
the stuff. Give it a few days and repeat if necessary. It has worked for
me.

Ray

"k-dawg" > wrote in message
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> as i look in the carboy it looks like the sediment is sticking to the
> sides of it about half way down.is this normal or should i stirr it up
> and see if it will settle to the bottom?
>
>

"Ray Calvert" > wrote in message
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>I have had this happen when wine is clearing and it probably has noting to
>do with isinglass. Take a firm grip on the carboy and give it a sharp
>twist. Then take another firm grip and give it a sharp twist back. This
>will usually break it loose from the sides without stirring up the bottom
>too much and it will go ahead and settle to the bottom. The sharp twist
>caused the glass to move rapidly while inertia tries to keep the fluid
>still. This tends to rip the stuff off the sides. Of course the fluid
>will start turning a bit. then the sharp twist back will put even more rip
>on the stuff. Give it a few days and repeat if necessary. It has worked
>for me.

You have just described riddling, as used in Champagne making, on a very
large scale!

BTW, bentonite is a frequent offender when it comes to finings sticking to
the walls of the vessel. It usually requires 2 rackings to get it really
clean.

Tom S
www.chateauburbank.com

"Tom S" > wrote in message
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> "Ray Calvert" > wrote in message
> . net...
>>I have had this happen when wine is clearing and it probably has noting to
>>do with isinglass. Take a firm grip on the carboy and give it a sharp
>>twist. Then take another firm grip and give it a sharp twist back. This
>>will usually break it loose from the sides without stirring up the bottom
>>too much and it will go ahead and settle to the bottom. The sharp twist
>>caused the glass to move rapidly while inertia tries to keep the fluid
>>still. This tends to rip the stuff off the sides. Of course the fluid
>>will start turning a bit. then the sharp twist back will put even more
>>rip on the stuff. Give it a few days and repeat if necessary. It has
>>worked for me.
>
> You have just described riddling, as used in Champagne making, on a very
> large scale!
>
> BTW, bentonite is a frequent offender when it comes to finings sticking to
> the walls of the vessel. It usually requires 2 rackings to get it really
> clean.
>
> Tom S
> www.chateauburbank.com
>
I discovered this on the first batch of wine I ever made (apple) and I have
been doing it for 30+ years and did not know it had a name! Blissful
ignorance. thanks Tom.

> "Tom S" > wrote in message
> . net...
>>
>> BTW, bentonite is a frequent offender when it comes to finings sticking
>> to the walls of the vessel. It usually requires 2 rackings to get it
>> really clean.

Oops! I meant to say "isinglass" - not bentonite. My bad...

Tom S
www.chateauburbank.com