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Old 07-10-2005, 05:28 AM
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I was reading the post, "Help! funny smell" and I am wondering about the
smell of the first batch of wine I made. The batch is a red or burgundy. I
believe the plant is a cross between a Isabella and a Couderc Noir.

I have racked it three times and each time the yeast on the bottom has a bad
smell and there is a light smell of the yeast in the wine.

I have a white wine I have done only three racks and do not have this smell
in the yeast.

Both wines are almost clear. Should I be worried about the red wine?



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Old 07-10-2005, 03:08 PM
 
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wine takes time.i am new at winemaking too. the wine i made in
early june was stinky. but improved greatly when i bottled it a couple
weeks ago.everything ive read here said this is normal and will improve
with age. lucas

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Old 07-10-2005, 07:10 PM
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I just don't want to have the problem that they were talking about that you
can fix if you catch it in time and your wine is bad if you don't.


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wine takes time.i am new at winemaking too. the wine i made in
early june was stinky. but improved greatly when i bottled it a couple
weeks ago.everything ive read here said this is normal and will improve
with age. lucas

http://www.minibite.com/america/malone.htm



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Old 07-10-2005, 07:13 PM
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Roy,
What yeast did you use? Describe the smell more. Is it like vinegar,
rotten eggs, nail polish remover????

Joe

Roy Boy wrote:

I was reading the post, "Help! funny smell" and I am wondering about the
smell of the first batch of wine I made. The batch is a red or burgundy. I
believe the plant is a cross between a Isabella and a Couderc Noir.

I have racked it three times and each time the yeast on the bottom has a bad
smell and there is a light smell of the yeast in the wine.

I have a white wine I have done only three racks and do not have this smell
in the yeast.

Both wines are almost clear. Should I be worried about the red wine?


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Old 07-10-2005, 08:20 PM
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It smells like it did when it was fermenting. It is kind of a musty smell.
The instructions that I was going by did not say anything about a ML
fermentation. I am wondering if maybe it is the acid, because the white
wines do not have this smell.


"Joe Giller" wrote in message
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Roy,
What yeast did you use? Describe the smell more. Is it like vinegar,
rotten eggs, nail polish remover????

Joe

Roy Boy wrote:

I was reading the post, "Help! funny smell" and I am wondering about the
smell of the first batch of wine I made. The batch is a red or burgundy.
I believe the plant is a cross between a Isabella and a Couderc Noir.

I have racked it three times and each time the yeast on the bottom has a
bad smell and there is a light smell of the yeast in the wine.

I have a white wine I have done only three racks and do not have this
smell in the yeast.

Both wines are almost clear. Should I be worried about the red wine?





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Old 07-10-2005, 08:41 PM
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I am new to wine making. I've made 6 gallons of Shiraz and 6 of Pinot
Noir using kits. Both wines are in the 1-3 month bottling hold time. But
when I bottled them, it WAS a fermenting musty smell.(they were totally
done fermenting) The taste was great, better than my favorite store
bought, but the store bought had a better nose. It was not rotten, or
earthy or stinky, just a little like the must spell while in carboys. I
am hoping with age, this gets better.
Is it normal for wines to taste better than they smell when you are
bottling them?
I am now into a 6 gallon Cranberry wine from juice and berries. And man,
the smell is heavenly and the taste, though sweet since it's only 5%
alchohol so far, is great. But that is cranberries (with 2 cans of welch
white concentrate).
I also have a 1 gallon Welch's concord under way - and it smells great.
Taste is like grape juice, but it's only been a few days.

So if anyone knows if shiraz and Pinot Noir or red wines have a poor
nose upon bottling, but typically get better, that would help. thoughts?
DAve



Roy Boy wrote:
It smells like it did when it was fermenting. It is kind of a musty smell.
The instructions that I was going by did not say anything about a ML
fermentation. I am wondering if maybe it is the acid, because the white
wines do not have this smell.


"Joe Giller" wrote in message
.. .

Roy,
What yeast did you use? Describe the smell more. Is it like vinegar,
rotten eggs, nail polish remover????

Joe

Roy Boy wrote:


I was reading the post, "Help! funny smell" and I am wondering about the
smell of the first batch of wine I made. The batch is a red or burgundy.
I believe the plant is a cross between a Isabella and a Couderc Noir.

I have racked it three times and each time the yeast on the bottom has a
bad smell and there is a light smell of the yeast in the wine.

I have a white wine I have done only three racks and do not have this
smell in the yeast.

Both wines are almost clear. Should I be worried about the red wine?




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Old 07-10-2005, 09:37 PM
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I made this wine from grapes off the vine. It does taste good for a young
wine, but there is no way I would serve this to anyone else with the smell.

The wine I made from a blush grape (type unknown) I took from my brothers
vines does not have this smell after the second racking. The water melon
wine that has only been racked once has the smell. The reason I question if
something is wrong is because the red wine is clear and I have not had any
settlement after the last racking. I would think if it was the yeast, it
would of gone with the yeast.



"DAve Allison" wrote in message
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I am new to wine making. I've made 6 gallons of Shiraz and 6 of Pinot Noir
using kits. Both wines are in the 1-3 month bottling hold time. But when I
bottled them, it WAS a fermenting musty smell.(they were totally done
fermenting) The taste was great, better than my favorite store bought, but
the store bought had a better nose. It was not rotten, or earthy or stinky,
just a little like the must spell while in carboys. I am hoping with age,
this gets better.
Is it normal for wines to taste better than they smell when you are
bottling them?
I am now into a 6 gallon Cranberry wine from juice and berries. And man,
the smell is heavenly and the taste, though sweet since it's only 5%
alchohol so far, is great. But that is cranberries (with 2 cans of welch
white concentrate).
I also have a 1 gallon Welch's concord under way - and it smells great.
Taste is like grape juice, but it's only been a few days.

So if anyone knows if shiraz and Pinot Noir or red wines have a poor nose
upon bottling, but typically get better, that would help. thoughts?
DAve



Roy Boy wrote:
It smells like it did when it was fermenting. It is kind of a musty
smell. The instructions that I was going by did not say anything about a
ML fermentation. I am wondering if maybe it is the acid, because the
white wines do not have this smell.


"Joe Giller" wrote in message
.. .

Roy,
What yeast did you use? Describe the smell more. Is it like vinegar,
rotten eggs, nail polish remover????

Joe

Roy Boy wrote:


I was reading the post, "Help! funny smell" and I am wondering about the
smell of the first batch of wine I made. The batch is a red or burgundy.
I believe the plant is a cross between a Isabella and a Couderc Noir.

I have racked it three times and each time the yeast on the bottom has a
bad smell and there is a light smell of the yeast in the wine.

I have a white wine I have done only three racks and do not have this
smell in the yeast.

Both wines are almost clear. Should I be worried about the red wine?






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