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Alexandros Gougousoudis 06-02-2005 06:44 PM

Making wine for dummies
 
Hi,

my family has some hills with wine in Greece, but nobody is interessted
to continue to make wine in my family, since my grandfather died 15
years ago. I like at least to try it a little bit and play around in my
leisure time, to see if I can do it. I have no idea about wine at the
moment, but I like to read about it. This is my main problem. I looked
in Google on Amazon and found lots of things about consuming wine,
making wine seems to be a secret.

Can anyone of you recommend a website or a book about MAKING wine?
Something which teach the basics and give a dummy like me a chance to
learn how to make at least a simple wine?

TIA

Alex

Doug 07-02-2005 01:37 AM

Alex -
If you've looked at this newsgroup for any length of time, you
should have seen plenty of references to these sites:

Lum Eisenman's online book / website on winemaking:
http://home.att.net/~lumeisenman/

Jack Keller's winemaking site:
http://winemaking.jackkeller.net

I won't recommend specific books - there are enough recent ones to fill
several bookshelves. If winemaking is a secret, it's probably the most
poorly-kept secret in human history.

I find it hard to believe that any family in Greece doesn't have at
least a couple of people in it who are convinced they already KNOW how
to make wine (although whether they would agree with each other about
anything, that's another question).

But if you're really looking for information, spend some time on those
sites. Searching Amazon.com for the keyword "winemaking" turned up a
list of several dozen books, including most of the ones most often
mentioned in posts on this newsgroup.

Doug


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JEP62 07-02-2005 02:28 PM


>
> Can anyone of you recommend a website or a book about MAKING wine?
> Something which teach the basics and give a dummy like me a chance to


> learn how to make at least a simple wine?
>
> TIA
>
> Alex



I have two suggestions. One is a pretty good on-line manual at

http://home.att.net/~lumeisenman/

The other suugestion is hanging out on the rec.crafts.winemaking group.
There is a wide range of wine makers there, from professionals to
newbies and it's a very friendly group.

Andy


Ray Calvert 07-02-2005 07:59 PM

Pick up a copy of Cox "From Vines to Wine" Take all that he says with a
grain of salt but it is a good overview and starts you thinking. Good
reading. You will find it at Amazon.

Ray

"Alexandros Gougousoudis" > wrote in message
...
> Hi,
>
> my family has some hills with wine in Greece, but nobody is interessted to
> continue to make wine in my family, since my grandfather died 15 years
> ago. I like at least to try it a little bit and play around in my leisure
> time, to see if I can do it. I have no idea about wine at the moment, but
> I like to read about it. This is my main problem. I looked in Google on
> Amazon and found lots of things about consuming wine, making wine seems to
> be a secret.
>
> Can anyone of you recommend a website or a book about MAKING wine?
> Something which teach the basics and give a dummy like me a chance to
> learn how to make at least a simple wine?
>
> TIA
>
> Alex




Alexandros Gougousoudis 08-02-2005 10:01 AM

Hi,

Doug wrote:
> http://home.att.net/~lumeisenman/
> http://winemaking.jackkeller.net


Thanks for all of your suggestions! I'll begin read. Didn't find them
with Google, my fault.

> I find it hard to believe that any family in Greece doesn't have at
> least a couple of people in it who are convinced they already KNOW how


At least in my family not, and also our neighbours quit that, since
their village turned into a city. We sit anyway in Germany and have not
such a close contact to them all. It's easier for me to read everything
in books.

> sites. Searching Amazon.com for the keyword "winemaking" turned up a


I looked at Amazon.de and I found only those about consuming wine (like
lexika etc.). My fault was to search in german and then ask in an
english group for help without searching in english. oki oki, mea culpa. :-)

cu & thanks also to JEP64 and Ray
Alex


[email protected] 08-02-2005 04:20 PM

I see good recommendations already. I'll add two that I've found
helpful and practical.
Home Winemaking Step-by-Step -- by Jon Iverson
Techniques In Home Winemaking -- by Daniel Pambianchi

RD


William Frazier 08-02-2005 05:48 PM

Ray - Why do you say "take all that Cox says with a grain of salt"? I
planned an entire vineyard based on his book about 10 years ago and found
his information about planting the vineyard and making wine excellent. You
can find far more technical books on winemaking but you certainly make good
wine from instruction in his book.

Bill Frazier
Olathe, Kansas USA

"Ray Calvert" > wrote in message
om...
> Pick up a copy of Cox "From Vines to Wine" Take all that he says with a
> grain of salt but it is a good overview and starts you thinking. Good
> reading. You will find it at Amazon.




Ray Calvert 09-02-2005 10:50 PM

Don't mean to step on anyone's toes, Cox's book is a very good book but it
has some weaknesses. Just as a for instance, I followed his advice to drop
corks in boiling water before using them. A bad idea. I lost a lot of wine
with that one. Just an example. I do not have my own vineyard and will not
comment on that part of his book but I have had others say that they started
with his methods and moved away from them. Maybe you should take what
everyone says with a grain of salt.

Ray

"William Frazier" > wrote in message
...
> Ray - Why do you say "take all that Cox says with a grain of salt"? I
> planned an entire vineyard based on his book about 10 years ago and found
> his information about planting the vineyard and making wine excellent.
> You can find far more technical books on winemaking but you certainly make
> good wine from instruction in his book.
>
> Bill Frazier
> Olathe, Kansas USA
>
> "Ray Calvert" > wrote in message
> om...
>> Pick up a copy of Cox "From Vines to Wine" Take all that he says with a
>> grain of salt but it is a good overview and starts you thinking. Good
>> reading. You will find it at Amazon.

>
>




Paul E. Lehmann 10-02-2005 12:09 PM

Ray Calvert wrote:

................
> I do not have my own vineyard and will
> not comment on that part of his book but I have had others say that they
> started
> with his methods and moved away from them. Maybe you should take what
> everyone says with a grain of salt.
>
> Ray


Cox's book is one of the best I have seen on pruning. I think it is an
excellent book for anyone starting a vineyard. If I would have had his
book when I put in my vineyard, I could have saved myself a lot of grief.



potatoman 11-02-2005 03:11 PM

Alexandros Gougousoudis wrote:
> Hi,
>
> my family has some hills with wine in Greece, but nobody is interessted
> to continue to make wine in my family, since my grandfather died 15
> years ago. I like at least to try it a little bit and play around in my
> leisure time, to see if I can do it. I have no idea about wine at the
> moment, but I like to read about it. This is my main problem. I looked
> in Google on Amazon and found lots of things about consuming wine,
> making wine seems to be a secret.
>
> Can anyone of you recommend a website or a book about MAKING wine?
> Something which teach the basics and give a dummy like me a chance to
> learn how to make at least a simple wine?
>
> TIA
>
> Alex



Are you sure you looked on amazon? A simple "winemaking" search yields
141 books. Of course, if you seriously want to consider using your
family's hills to grow grapes for wine, you should start with some books
on viticulture as that is going to be the most important and time
consuming part of your process.

Making wine is certainly no secret as there are a couple of stores in my
small town alone dedicated to supplies for making beer and wine.


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