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R-D-C 10-10-2004 03:16 PM

Supermarket Juices
 
Can I use juices from the supermarket to make wine? Anything to look out
for?



R-D-C 10-10-2004 03:47 PM

....as in orange juice, apple juice, cranberry etc?



"R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message ...
> Can I use juices from the supermarket to make wine? Anything to look out
> for?
>




alien 10-10-2004 03:58 PM

R-D-C wrote:
> How did you decide on the amount of juice to use?
>
>
> "alien" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>R-D-C wrote:
>>
>>>...as in orange juice, apple juice, cranberry etc?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Can I use juices from the supermarket to make wine? Anything to look out
>>>>for?
>>>>
>>>

>>I've made a gallon of apple and cranberry wine using supermarket juices. I
>>made sure that they didn't have any preservatives (sodium metabisulphate
>>was in the juice, but I ignored that). Then I brought it to the boil,
>>simmered for a couple of minutes and went from there. I've just done the
>>first racking, it's ok so far, nothing to shout about.

>
>
>

I just used the standard fruit juice cartons for drinking, the ones you
find in the chiller cabinet. Took an SG measurement when cooled and
added sugar to build it up with an aim of hitting 13.5% abv.

Bob 10-10-2004 10:08 PM

"R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message ...
> LOL
>
> sue bee?


IMO the most overlooked supplementary ingredient for an otherworldly
drinking experience. Their clover honey is so delicious it is surreal. Mead
is heavenly. I'd imagine faeries and elves drink it, maybe mermaids too;
I'll ask my gf, she's a mermaid.... @8=<

>
> "Bob" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Can I use juices from the supermarket to make wine? Anything to look

out
> >> for?
> >>

> > This is what I do a =LOT=. Look out for any preservatives, usually
> > metabisulfites; might take a year for fermentation to begin!!! LOL!!!

And
> > since a lot of juices are colored or flavored with unknown stuff, get a
> > label of ingredients that you know =exactly= what all the items are, and
> > are
> > totally natural. Also, many juices have ascorbic or other acids added,

be
> > sure to check your acidity just like you would with anything else.
> > Otherwise, apple, both purple and white concord grape, cherry,

strawberry,
> > etc are all good. Adding Sue Bee clover honey for fermentable sugars

adds
> > an
> > indescibably delicious taste of honey to boot....
> > ONE note: when using concord grapes, use only 50% grape juice, 50%
> > water. I had one guy try a white concord I used 100% juice with, and he
> > said
> > it "kicked ass" but it was also "death by grape", meaning very

strong.....
> > and he was right, not that =I= cared! LOL!!
> > Bob<><
> >
> >

>
>




Bob 11-10-2004 01:47 PM

"alien" > wrote in message
...
> Sue Bee is a honey. I don't think you get the equivalent here in old
> blighty. I suppose that some of the Tesco's quality honey would be good
> (£2.50ish for just under 500g). I've used beedata.com to find my local
> honey supplier, putting on 3 gallons of mead next weekend at £3/500g.
> But its raw wildflower honey, no added water.


Sue Bee is a Grade AA pure Clover honey. It is perfectly uniform at all
times, with no shortages or surprizes.

>
> R-D-C wrote:
> > Hehe,
> >
> > is it a US brand? I haven't seen it over here in England.
> >
> > "Bob" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>"R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> >>>LOL
> >>>
> >>>sue bee?
> >>
> >> IMO the most overlooked supplementary ingredient for an otherworldly
> >>drinking experience. Their clover honey is so delicious it is surreal.
> >>Mead
> >>is heavenly. I'd imagine faeries and elves drink it, maybe mermaids too;
> >>I'll ask my gf, she's a mermaid.... @8=<
> >>
> >>>"Bob" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>
> >>>>"R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message
> ...
> >>>>
> >>>>>Can I use juices from the supermarket to make wine? Anything to look
> >>
> >>out
> >>
> >>>>>for?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> This is what I do a =LOT=. Look out for any preservatives, usually
> >>>>metabisulfites; might take a year for fermentation to begin!!! LOL!!!
> >>
> >>And
> >>
> >>>>since a lot of juices are colored or flavored with unknown stuff, get

a
> >>>>label of ingredients that you know =exactly= what all the items are,
> >>>>and
> >>>>are
> >>>>totally natural. Also, many juices have ascorbic or other acids added,
> >>
> >>be
> >>
> >>>>sure to check your acidity just like you would with anything else.
> >>>>Otherwise, apple, both purple and white concord grape, cherry,
> >>
> >>strawberry,
> >>
> >>>>etc are all good. Adding Sue Bee clover honey for fermentable sugars
> >>
> >>adds
> >>
> >>>>an
> >>>>indescibably delicious taste of honey to boot....
> >>>> ONE note: when using concord grapes, use only 50% grape juice, 50%
> >>>>water. I had one guy try a white concord I used 100% juice with, and

he
> >>>>said
> >>>>it "kicked ass" but it was also "death by grape", meaning very
> >>
> >>strong.....
> >>
> >>>>and he was right, not that =I= cared! LOL!!
> >>>> Bob<><
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>

> >
> >




R-D-C 11-10-2004 08:10 PM

Tesco is the one I used as it appears to be pure honey, no preservatives or
anything. It is bubbling nicely in my kitchen :)


"alien" > wrote in message
...
> Sue Bee is a honey. I don't think you get the equivalent here in old
> blighty. I suppose that some of the Tesco's quality honey would be good
> (£2.50ish for just under 500g). I've used beedata.com to find my local
> honey supplier, putting on 3 gallons of mead next weekend at £3/500g. But
> its raw wildflower honey, no added water.
>
> R-D-C wrote:
>> Hehe,
>>
>> is it a US brand? I haven't seen it over here in England.
>>
>> "Bob" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>"R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>>LOL
>>>>
>>>>sue bee?
>>>
>>> IMO the most overlooked supplementary ingredient for an otherworldly
>>>drinking experience. Their clover honey is so delicious it is surreal.
>>>Mead
>>>is heavenly. I'd imagine faeries and elves drink it, maybe mermaids too;
>>>I'll ask my gf, she's a mermaid.... @8=<
>>>
>>>>"Bob" > wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>>>"R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message
...
>>>>>
>>>>>>Can I use juices from the supermarket to make wine? Anything to look
>>>
>>>out
>>>
>>>>>>for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is what I do a =LOT=. Look out for any preservatives, usually
>>>>>metabisulfites; might take a year for fermentation to begin!!! LOL!!!
>>>
>>>And
>>>
>>>>>since a lot of juices are colored or flavored with unknown stuff, get a
>>>>>label of ingredients that you know =exactly= what all the items are,
>>>>>and
>>>>>are
>>>>>totally natural. Also, many juices have ascorbic or other acids added,
>>>
>>>be
>>>
>>>>>sure to check your acidity just like you would with anything else.
>>>>>Otherwise, apple, both purple and white concord grape, cherry,
>>>
>>>strawberry,
>>>
>>>>>etc are all good. Adding Sue Bee clover honey for fermentable sugars
>>>
>>>adds
>>>
>>>>>an
>>>>>indescibably delicious taste of honey to boot....
>>>>> ONE note: when using concord grapes, use only 50% grape juice, 50%
>>>>>water. I had one guy try a white concord I used 100% juice with, and he
>>>>>said
>>>>>it "kicked ass" but it was also "death by grape", meaning very
>>>
>>>strong.....
>>>
>>>>>and he was right, not that =I= cared! LOL!!
>>>>> Bob<><
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>



Bob 12-10-2004 07:38 PM

"R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message ...
> she got gills?


No, but her legs do go all the way up....



Bob 13-10-2004 03:19 AM


"R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message ...
> That's probably for the best. ;-)
>
> "Bob" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message
> > ...
> >> she got gills?

> >
> > No, but her legs do go all the way up....
> >

Sorry for carrying on, but she is the most feminine woman I have ever
seen. My late wife was a large tomboy, so this is a real switcherooney. I
used to tell my wife I married her for her set of wrenches.....



R-D-C 13-10-2004 07:41 PM

Hehehe

I'd say proove it but this aint a binaries newsgroup - lol.


"Bob" > wrote in message
...
>
> "R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message
> ...
>> That's probably for the best. ;-)
>>
>> "Bob" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > "R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> she got gills?
>> >
>> > No, but her legs do go all the way up....
>> >

> Sorry for carrying on, but she is the most feminine woman I have ever
> seen. My late wife was a large tomboy, so this is a real switcherooney. I
> used to tell my wife I married her for her set of wrenches.....
>
>




R-D-C 13-10-2004 07:41 PM

Hehehe

I'd say proove it but this aint a binaries newsgroup - lol.


"Bob" > wrote in message
...
>
> "R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message
> ...
>> That's probably for the best. ;-)
>>
>> "Bob" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > "R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> she got gills?
>> >
>> > No, but her legs do go all the way up....
>> >

> Sorry for carrying on, but she is the most feminine woman I have ever
> seen. My late wife was a large tomboy, so this is a real switcherooney. I
> used to tell my wife I married her for her set of wrenches.....
>
>




Ray Calvert 15-10-2004 08:45 PM

For years I resisted making citris wines as I could not believe they would
be good. Then a friend made some Frozen Grapefruit wine and I really liked
it. Then I made some fresh squeezed orange juice wine and it is not bad at
all. I am still aging it but I am pleased wit it.

Ray

"Bob" > wrote in message
...
>
> "alien" > wrote in message
> ...
>> R-D-C wrote:
>> > ...as in orange juice, apple juice, cranberry etc?
>> >

> Orange wine even when made by pros is not worth your time. I picked
> some
> up on a trip to FLA a few years back. Apple is a 100% sure thing!!! I am
> also going to try using Cherry Juicy-Juice in 48oz cans tomorrow. Should
> know something by February.....
>> >
>> > "R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message

> ...
>> >
>> >>Can I use juices from the supermarket to make wine? Anything to look

> out
>> >>for?
>> >>
>> >

>>
>> I've made a gallon of apple and cranberry wine using supermarket juices.
>> I made sure that they didn't have any preservatives (sodium
>> metabisulphate was in the juice, but I ignored that). Then I brought it
>> to the boil, simmered for a couple of minutes and went from there. I've
>> just done the first racking, it's ok so far, nothing to shout about.

>
>
>




Ray Calvert 15-10-2004 08:45 PM

For years I resisted making citris wines as I could not believe they would
be good. Then a friend made some Frozen Grapefruit wine and I really liked
it. Then I made some fresh squeezed orange juice wine and it is not bad at
all. I am still aging it but I am pleased wit it.

Ray

"Bob" > wrote in message
...
>
> "alien" > wrote in message
> ...
>> R-D-C wrote:
>> > ...as in orange juice, apple juice, cranberry etc?
>> >

> Orange wine even when made by pros is not worth your time. I picked
> some
> up on a trip to FLA a few years back. Apple is a 100% sure thing!!! I am
> also going to try using Cherry Juicy-Juice in 48oz cans tomorrow. Should
> know something by February.....
>> >
>> > "R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message

> ...
>> >
>> >>Can I use juices from the supermarket to make wine? Anything to look

> out
>> >>for?
>> >>
>> >

>>
>> I've made a gallon of apple and cranberry wine using supermarket juices.
>> I made sure that they didn't have any preservatives (sodium
>> metabisulphate was in the juice, but I ignored that). Then I brought it
>> to the boil, simmered for a couple of minutes and went from there. I've
>> just done the first racking, it's ok so far, nothing to shout about.

>
>
>




Ray Calvert 15-10-2004 08:58 PM

I agree with Rick. Welch's frozen white Niagara Grape Juice makes a fine
wine. I have not had good luck with the one batch of frozen concord I tried
but others have. These also made very inexpensive wines coming in well
below $1.00 per bottle. Visit Jack Keller's site
http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/reques65.asp
You can make some excellent wines following his suggestions. The Niagara is
truely wonderfull.

Ray

"Rick Vanderwal" > wrote in message
...
>I would recommend using the frozen Welch's 100% white grape juice
>blends... White-grape raspberry, white-grape peach.
>
> Just reconsititute them according ot the package instructions. 1 can
> concentrate, 3 cans water. For one gallon batch, I would recommend 2-3
> cans concentrate, add enough water for just over 1 gallon, add enough
> sugar to make about 10-12 potential alcohol (2-2.5 lbs sugar?), acid
> blend, yeast, etc....
>
> And ferment away!
>
> here's the recipe......
> http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/reques65.asp
>
> Best wishes.
> Rick Vanderwal
> Fremont, MI
>
>
>
>
>
> "R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message
> ...
>> Can I use juices from the supermarket to make wine? Anything to look out
>> for?
>>

>
>
>




JoAnn 16-10-2004 02:35 PM

Morning, (at least it is right here and now.)
Just a word of caution on supermarket juices. Before adding
sulfite or acid, do a so2 test and a ta test. I tried some Knots Berry
farm frozen juices (bought at Costco). I decided to check the SO2 on
the stuff before adding any sugar, sulfite and acid blend, and found
the juice to already be over 100ppm. Nothing on the label about that
either. So delute the juice according to the recipe directions, check
the numbers then add stuff according to the numbers.
Just my 0.02 worth of advice.
JAM

JoAnn 16-10-2004 02:35 PM

Morning, (at least it is right here and now.)
Just a word of caution on supermarket juices. Before adding
sulfite or acid, do a so2 test and a ta test. I tried some Knots Berry
farm frozen juices (bought at Costco). I decided to check the SO2 on
the stuff before adding any sugar, sulfite and acid blend, and found
the juice to already be over 100ppm. Nothing on the label about that
either. So delute the juice according to the recipe directions, check
the numbers then add stuff according to the numbers.
Just my 0.02 worth of advice.
JAM

Bob 17-10-2004 01:46 AM


"Ray Calvert" > wrote in message
m...
> For years I resisted making citris wines as I could not believe they would
> be good. Then a friend made some Frozen Grapefruit wine and I really

liked
> it. Then I made some fresh squeezed orange juice wine and it is not bad

at
> all. I am still aging it but I am pleased wit it.


I LOVE pink grapefruit juice! :-)
>
> Ray
>
> "Bob" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "alien" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> R-D-C wrote:
> >> > ...as in orange juice, apple juice, cranberry etc?
> >> >

> > Orange wine even when made by pros is not worth your time. I picked
> > some
> > up on a trip to FLA a few years back. Apple is a 100% sure thing!!! I am
> > also going to try using Cherry Juicy-Juice in 48oz cans tomorrow. Should
> > know something by February.....
> >> >
> >> > "R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message

> > ...
> >> >
> >> >>Can I use juices from the supermarket to make wine? Anything to look

> > out
> >> >>for?
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> I've made a gallon of apple and cranberry wine using supermarket

juices.
> >> I made sure that they didn't have any preservatives (sodium
> >> metabisulphate was in the juice, but I ignored that). Then I brought

it
> >> to the boil, simmered for a couple of minutes and went from there.

I've
> >> just done the first racking, it's ok so far, nothing to shout about.

> >
> >
> >

>
>




Bob 17-10-2004 01:46 AM


"Ray Calvert" > wrote in message
m...
> For years I resisted making citris wines as I could not believe they would
> be good. Then a friend made some Frozen Grapefruit wine and I really

liked
> it. Then I made some fresh squeezed orange juice wine and it is not bad

at
> all. I am still aging it but I am pleased wit it.


I LOVE pink grapefruit juice! :-)
>
> Ray
>
> "Bob" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "alien" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> R-D-C wrote:
> >> > ...as in orange juice, apple juice, cranberry etc?
> >> >

> > Orange wine even when made by pros is not worth your time. I picked
> > some
> > up on a trip to FLA a few years back. Apple is a 100% sure thing!!! I am
> > also going to try using Cherry Juicy-Juice in 48oz cans tomorrow. Should
> > know something by February.....
> >> >
> >> > "R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message

> > ...
> >> >
> >> >>Can I use juices from the supermarket to make wine? Anything to look

> > out
> >> >>for?
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> I've made a gallon of apple and cranberry wine using supermarket

juices.
> >> I made sure that they didn't have any preservatives (sodium
> >> metabisulphate was in the juice, but I ignored that). Then I brought

it
> >> to the boil, simmered for a couple of minutes and went from there.

I've
> >> just done the first racking, it's ok so far, nothing to shout about.

> >
> >
> >

>
>




World'sWorst 21-10-2004 11:04 PM

Don't just stop at juices, matey! Try jam, marmalade, dried fruit, Ribena,
squash, tea, coffee! The list is endless and if you make a wine that isn't
quite up to scratch don't bin it but blend it! Experimentation is the name
of the game...............sometimes! CJJ Berry published a great little
book on this.
"R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message ...
> Can I use juices from the supermarket to make wine? Anything to look out
> for?
>
>




World'sWorst 21-10-2004 11:04 PM

Don't just stop at juices, matey! Try jam, marmalade, dried fruit, Ribena,
squash, tea, coffee! The list is endless and if you make a wine that isn't
quite up to scratch don't bin it but blend it! Experimentation is the name
of the game...............sometimes! CJJ Berry published a great little
book on this.
"R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message ...
> Can I use juices from the supermarket to make wine? Anything to look out
> for?
>
>




World'sWorst 21-10-2004 11:04 PM

Don't just stop at juices, matey! Try jam, marmalade, dried fruit, Ribena,
squash, tea, coffee! The list is endless and if you make a wine that isn't
quite up to scratch don't bin it but blend it! Experimentation is the name
of the game...............sometimes! CJJ Berry published a great little
book on this.
"R-D-C" <nospam> wrote in message ...
> Can I use juices from the supermarket to make wine? Anything to look out
> for?
>
>





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