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seb 27-01-2004 03:30 AM

Filling machine
 
I whant your feedback about some filling machine available in my area.
For the one who use one of theses, please give me your feedback about
how it works, great or not.

1) SS multi-spouts filling machine ( 3 spouts model )
2) SS true gravity fed with 3 spouts ( more professionnal unit )
3) Enolmatic Automatic Vacuum that can work in tamdem with a cartridge
filter
4) Buon Vino Fill Jet bottling machine

I would like to buy one of these in 2004. I made about 150 Gal. of
wine per year.

Thanks for any inputs
Séb

Steve Waller 27-01-2004 05:03 AM

Filling machine
 
There is a BV Fill Jet in our small store. No serious problems after
2 1/2 years, although recently it seems to be adding more air to the
wine as it bottles. A new one is being ordered. Apparently the
filling head has been improved.

According to the catalogues that I have seen, the Enolmatic has MANY
MANY parts, whereas the Fill Jet is fairly simply.

Our Fill Jet did not come with a maintenance manual or parts list or
much documentation at all. There are a couple of inexpensive parts
that have worn and required replacement. Also there is a small spring
and ball bearing that are easily lost/misplaced, so it is a good idea
to have spares.

Steve

On 26 Jan 2004 19:30:23 -0800, (seb) wrote:

>I whant your feedback about some filling machine available in my area.
> For the one who use one of theses, please give me your feedback about
>how it works, great or not.
>
>1) SS multi-spouts filling machine ( 3 spouts model )
>2) SS true gravity fed with 3 spouts ( more professionnal unit )
>3) Enolmatic Automatic Vacuum that can work in tamdem with a cartridge
>filter
>4) Buon Vino Fill Jet bottling machine
>
>I would like to buy one of these in 2004. I made about 150 Gal. of
>wine per year.
>
>Thanks for any inputs
>Séb



seb 03-02-2004 03:15 PM

Filling machine
 
Steve Waller > wrote in message >. ..
> There is a BV Fill Jet in our small store. No serious problems after
> 2 1/2 years, although recently it seems to be adding more air to the
> wine as it bottles. A new one is being ordered. Apparently the
> filling head has been improved.
>
> According to the catalogues that I have seen, the Enolmatic has MANY
> MANY parts, whereas the Fill Jet is fairly simply.
>
> Our Fill Jet did not come with a maintenance manual or parts list or
> much documentation at all. There are a couple of inexpensive parts
> that have worn and required replacement. Also there is a small spring
> and ball bearing that are easily lost/misplaced, so it is a good idea
> to have spares.
>
> Steve
>
>

Thanks Steve for sharing your experiences. I would like to read more
about that. There's probably others winemakers who use this type of
bottling device ?? What everyone use ?? I need more idea please...
Séb

Brad B. 04-02-2004 12:03 AM

Filling machine
 
I have the Enolmatic and am generally happy with it. I also have the
filter attachment which allows you to filter on the way to the bottle.
The wine is drawn into the bottle using vacuum so it's not too harsh
in terms of oxidation. I have found the wine tends to foam in the
bottle if you fill too quickly, however. I also sometimes have
trouble adjusting the fill level exactly where I want it.

Overall it is a good unit. I'm not sure why anyone would say it has
many, many parts. It's really not that complex, but it is not cheap
either (especially with the filter unit and cartridge as part of the
setup).

Cheers,
Brad

(seb) wrote in message . com>...
> I whant your feedback about some filling machine available in my area.
> For the one who use one of theses, please give me your feedback about
> how it works, great or not.
>
> 1) SS multi-spouts filling machine ( 3 spouts model )
> 2) SS true gravity fed with 3 spouts ( more professionnal unit )
> 3) Enolmatic Automatic Vacuum that can work in tamdem with a cartridge
> filter
> 4) Buon Vino Fill Jet bottling machine
>
> I would like to buy one of these in 2004. I made about 150 Gal. of
> wine per year.
>
> Thanks for any inputs
> Séb


Ross Reid 04-02-2004 03:11 PM

Filling machine
 
(seb) wrote:

>I whant your feedback about some filling machine available in my area.
> For the one who use one of theses, please give me your feedback about
>how it works, great or not.
>
>1) SS multi-spouts filling machine ( 3 spouts model )
>2) SS true gravity fed with 3 spouts ( more professionnal unit )
>3) Enolmatic Automatic Vacuum that can work in tamdem with a cartridge
>filter
>4) Buon Vino Fill Jet bottling machine
>
>I would like to buy one of these in 2004. I made about 150 Gal. of
>wine per year.
>
>Thanks for any inputs
>Séb


I have been using the Buon Vino FillJet for a couple of years and can
recommend it highly. You will have a problem with the consistent fill
levels if the wine is not sufficiently de-gassed. But, that is not a
problem with the unit, more with the wine-maker.

Ross

sgbrix 04-02-2004 03:30 PM

Filling machine
 
(seb) wrote in message . com>...
> I whant your feedback about some filling machine available in my area.
> For the one who use one of theses, please give me your feedback about
> how it works, great or not.
>
> 1) SS multi-spouts filling machine ( 3 spouts model )
> 2) SS true gravity fed with 3 spouts ( more professionnal unit )


---snip
I have tried what you looking at. But at only 150g/year I bet you are
up to barrel size containers. If you do not have them stored for
natural gravity flow, you have to engage a pump to fill the reservoir.
Now you are engaging lots of equipment that have to be cleaned etc. At
this point you may as well fit a stop directly to the pump, which is
how I have ended up. I go through the use of the iris on the floor
corker with a S/S tube fitted with a flow control sensor that shout
down the pump when full @ 15 sec. Pull it out of the iris, insert a
cork and seal. I use the same pump to move wine between barrels. This
is a bit slow since the diameter is really too small. But it works
fine and you can leave it alone and let it do its thing as long as you
have some form of a strainer on your intake. I made one from a S/S
strainer. This so that larger oak pieces from your barrels that can
dislodge from toasting and float loose can't clog you up.

Also I found it tedious to clean the filler for just small fillings
and it now rest on one of my shelves as another conversation piece.

SG Brix


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