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Do labels printed from inkjet printers wear well with the passage of time?
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"glad heart" > wrote:
> Do labels printed from inkjet printers wear well with the passage of time?


The design of the inkjet printer requires a water-soluble ink. This means
that the label printing will smear easily, even after completely "dry". Some
brands of "inkjet" inks are better than others, but all exhibit this
characteristic to some extent. The problem can be largely avoided by
spraying the labels with a transparent lacquer after printing them, and
preferably before application to the bottle (as the lacquer overspray is
difficult to remove from the glass).

The type of paper you use makes a big difference as well. Smearing is
greatly reduced with special (and relatively expensive) "Inkjet paper".

Other than the potential for smearing upon contact (e.g.) with moist hands,
the ink seems durable. I have inkjet documents that are over 20 years old,
and which show no sign of deterioration. Of course, they have been in a file
folder, and not exposed to moisture or sunlight.


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"Negodki" > wrote in message
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> "glad heart" > wrote:
> > Do labels printed from inkjet printers wear well with the passage of

time?
>
> The design of the inkjet printer requires a water-soluble ink. This means
> that the label printing will smear easily, even after completely "dry".

Some
> brands of "inkjet" inks are better than others, but all exhibit this
> characteristic to some extent.


This is true with one exception. Epson printers that use pigment (instead
of dye) based "Dura-Brite" inks are essentially waterproof, even on plain
paper. For a long time I used to print labels on an HP inkjet, then spray
them with a clear lacquer like you suggest. Now I use an
Epson with Dura-Brite inks, on standard labels and I can soak a bottle in an
ice bucket without the label bleeding or smearing.

Regards,

John



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glad heart wrote:

> Do labels printed from inkjet printers wear well with the passage of time?


Depending on your cost of ink, and whether or not you have colour, it
might be cheaper to get (colour) photocopies or print-outs from a kinkos
type store.

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I use an Epson C82 Stylus Inkjet Printer and the colours are totally fast.
I can soak off the labels from the bottles in water and there is no
"leaching" or any other deterioration at all. This is, of course, using
genuine Epson colour cartridges. If "compatible" cartridges are used then
you will find the leeching is quite pronounced.

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"Negodki" > wrote in message
...
> "glad heart" > wrote:
> > Do labels printed from inkjet printers wear well with the passage of

time?
>
> The design of the inkjet printer requires a water-soluble ink. This means
> that the label printing will smear easily, even after completely "dry".

Some
> brands of "inkjet" inks are better than others, but all exhibit this
> characteristic to some extent. The problem can be largely avoided by
> spraying the labels with a transparent lacquer after printing them, and
> preferably before application to the bottle (as the lacquer overspray is
> difficult to remove from the glass).
>
> The type of paper you use makes a big difference as well. Smearing is
> greatly reduced with special (and relatively expensive) "Inkjet paper".
>
> Other than the potential for smearing upon contact (e.g.) with moist

hands,
> the ink seems durable. I have inkjet documents that are over 20 years old,
> and which show no sign of deterioration. Of course, they have been in a

file
> folder, and not exposed to moisture or sunlight.
>
>





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Ditto on that; I have the same printer. I went to the store, printed
a test page, brought it home, wet it a stuck it in the refridgerator.
It never bleed at all.

I then bought the printer and have been using it for two years. The
ink is pricey, but you get what you pay for...
Regards,
Joe


"Pinky" > wrote in message >...
> I use an Epson C82 Stylus Inkjet Printer and the colours are totally fast.
> I can soak off the labels from the bottles in water and there is no
> "leaching" or any other deterioration at all. This is, of course, using
> genuine Epson colour cartridges. If "compatible" cartridges are used then
> you will find the leeching is quite pronounced.
>

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glad heart
 
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Thanks for the comments everyone. I use an Epson Stylus 740 and brand
name ink. Is there a particular lacqeur spray to recommend or will my
handy Home Depot man be able to find me the right product?
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Joe Sallustio
 
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Are you sure it bleeds? Wet it first to make sure you even need to do
this.

Datakote is the brand used to cover labels applied to electronic
equipment, but any matte finish should work as long as you try not to
saturate the paper, (dry spraying). I would stay about a foot from the
paper and move fast until there were a few spritz marks the first time
I did it. Then you can figure out what rate you can get away with as
you do more.
Regards,
Joe

(glad heart) wrote in message om>...
> Thanks for the comments everyone. I use an Epson Stylus 740 and brand
> name ink. Is there a particular lacqeur spray to recommend or will my
> handy Home Depot man be able to find me the right product?

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"glad heart" > wrote in message
> Do labels printed from inkjet printers wear well with the passage of time?


Would labels printed on laser be more resistant to water and therefore last
longer?


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On 11/26/03 6:35 AM, in article
, "Joe Ae"
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> "glad heart" > wrote in message
>> Do labels printed from inkjet printers wear well with the passage of time?

>
> Would labels printed on laser be more resistant to water and therefore last
> longer?
>
>


Yes


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