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Michael 14-11-2003 03:20 AM

Andovin vs. Lalvin vs. Red Star
 
I just received a couple of the Project Holiday Wine Kits from Wine
Art. I had made several of these a few years ago and they are
actually tasting very good right now, so even though my local
suppliers push Brew King kits, I got Wine Art to send them to another
store that would get them for me.

In the past it seemed like most, if not all, Wine Art kits had Lavlin
and primarily EC-1118 except in the Gold kits.

I like the fact they are considering a wider variety of yeasts.

Can anyone tell me the pros/cons of this particular yeast distributor?
It is first time I have seen their packaging, yeast packets appear to
be 8 grams?

Michael 17-11-2003 11:30 AM

Andovin vs. Lalvin vs. Red Star
 
it was a serious question.

(Michael) wrote in message . com>...
> I just received a couple of the Project Holiday Wine Kits from Wine
> Art. I had made several of these a few years ago and they are
> actually tasting very good right now, so even though my local
> suppliers push Brew King kits, I got Wine Art to send them to another
> store that would get them for me.
>
> In the past it seemed like most, if not all, Wine Art kits had Lavlin
> and primarily EC-1118 except in the Gold kits.
>
> I like the fact they are considering a wider variety of yeasts.
>
> Can anyone tell me the pros/cons of this particular yeast distributor?
> It is first time I have seen their packaging, yeast packets appear to
> be 8 grams?


Ray 17-11-2003 04:19 PM

Andovin vs. Lalvin vs. Red Star
 
It is not that they include the best yeast for the wine or the cheapest
yeast to save money. I think they usually include the most fool proof
yeast. That does not necessarily mean that you are a fool to use it or to
not use it.

If you want a different character for your wine you might try a different
yeast. If so then it is up to you to do the research necessary to see than
the yeast you select will do a good job on the wine you want to make. I
carefully research my yeast for non-kit wines and then use what I have on
hand or what is available locally. For kit wines I usually use what comes
with them. Some times I will use a Lalvin 71B to bring out the fruit in
some kits.

Ray

"Michael" > wrote in message
om...
> I just received a couple of the Project Holiday Wine Kits from Wine
> Art. I had made several of these a few years ago and they are
> actually tasting very good right now, so even though my local
> suppliers push Brew King kits, I got Wine Art to send them to another
> store that would get them for me.
>
> In the past it seemed like most, if not all, Wine Art kits had Lavlin
> and primarily EC-1118 except in the Gold kits.
>
> I like the fact they are considering a wider variety of yeasts.
>
> Can anyone tell me the pros/cons of this particular yeast distributor?
> It is first time I have seen their packaging, yeast packets appear to
> be 8 grams?




Richard Kovach 18-11-2003 04:39 AM

Andovin vs. Lalvin vs. Red Star
 
Michael,

I've posted lots of stuff about yeasts -- esp. considering my relative
lack of experience :-) You can search the archives for those posts.
But I've never heard of Andovin. I suspect that few here have any
experience with them and that's why your first post drew no responses.

Cheers,
Richard

(Michael) wrote in message . com>...
> it was a serious question.
>
>
(Michael) wrote in message . com>...
> > I just received a couple of the Project Holiday Wine Kits from Wine
> > Art. I had made several of these a few years ago and they are
> > actually tasting very good right now, so even though my local
> > suppliers push Brew King kits, I got Wine Art to send them to another
> > store that would get them for me.
> >
> > In the past it seemed like most, if not all, Wine Art kits had Lavlin
> > and primarily EC-1118 except in the Gold kits.
> >
> > I like the fact they are considering a wider variety of yeasts.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me the pros/cons of this particular yeast distributor?
> > It is first time I have seen their packaging, yeast packets appear to
> > be 8 grams?


Ken Vale 18-11-2003 10:32 AM

Andovin vs. Lalvin vs. Red Star
 
Richard Kovach wrote:

>Michael,
>
>I've posted lots of stuff about yeasts -- esp. considering my relative
>lack of experience :-) You can search the archives for those posts.
>But I've never heard of Andovin. I suspect that few here have any
>experience with them and that's why your first post drew no responses.
>
>Cheers,
>Richard
>

I like to know about yeast as much as the next guy. I went looking
for a Andvin website I got nothing but online homebrew retailers selling
"Andovin Yeast Starter." If they have a website Google couldn't find it
Ken


Joe Sallustio 18-11-2003 11:13 AM

Andovin vs. Lalvin vs. Red Star
 
I don't know Andovin either.

I use mainly Lalvin, but just because I have easy access to them and
consider them reliable fermenters. I usually use 71B on any north
eastern grape with TA over 8.0 g/l; D47 on most whites, RC212 or
Bourgovin on reds, KIV and EC1118 once in a while also.
Regards,
Joe


> But I've never heard of Andovin. I suspect that few here have any
> experience with them and that's why your first post drew no responses.


Michael 18-11-2003 11:40 AM

Andovin vs. Lalvin vs. Red Star
 
Thanks for the responses, my question was probably not phrased right.
I am very familiar with the Lavlin yeasts and have changed those in
the past when I have bought multiples of the same kit and do like the
71B and have used it in some country wines. Brew King also seems to
have expanded it's variety of yeasts in kits and I think it is nice to
use something other then EC-1118 each time.

The Andovin yeast is slightly different in that it is an 8 gram vs. 5
for other dry yeasts and also when I did a search with google I did
not get much on andovin yeast, most hits were related to andovin yeast
nutrient.

I assume Wine Art would not put an additive in that they had not
tested multiple times, especially in their Holiday Wine Kits. I have
two boxes of each kit, so I will probably do one with the yeast they
supplied and one with a Lavlin yeast to see what differences are
apparent in the wine.

"Ray" > wrote in message m>...
> It is not that they include the best yeast for the wine or the cheapest
> yeast to save money. I think they usually include the most fool proof
> yeast. That does not necessarily mean that you are a fool to use it or to
> not use it.
>
> If you want a different character for your wine you might try a different
> yeast. If so then it is up to you to do the research necessary to see than
> the yeast you select will do a good job on the wine you want to make. I
> carefully research my yeast for non-kit wines and then use what I have on
> hand or what is available locally. For kit wines I usually use what comes
> with them. Some times I will use a Lalvin 71B to bring out the fruit in
> some kits.
>
> Ray
>
> "Michael" > wrote in message
> om...
> > I just received a couple of the Project Holiday Wine Kits from Wine
> > Art. I had made several of these a few years ago and they are
> > actually tasting very good right now, so even though my local
> > suppliers push Brew King kits, I got Wine Art to send them to another
> > store that would get them for me.
> >
> > In the past it seemed like most, if not all, Wine Art kits had Lavlin
> > and primarily EC-1118 except in the Gold kits.
> >
> > I like the fact they are considering a wider variety of yeasts.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me the pros/cons of this particular yeast distributor?
> > It is first time I have seen their packaging, yeast packets appear to
> > be 8 grams?



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