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Dick Heckman[_2_] 10-09-2008 10:37 PM

Yeast nutrient
 
Will yeast nutrient support Malolactic cultures and does it ever go bad?
I've got some that been around for a good while. I'm not sure how long.

Dick

pp 10-09-2008 11:25 PM

Yeast nutrient
 
On Sep 10, 2:37*pm, Dick Heckman > wrote:
> Will yeast nutrient support Malolactic cultures and does it ever go bad?
> * I've got some that been around for a good while. *I'm not sure how long.
>
> Dick


The nutrient for MLB is different than yeast nutrient, either get the
right stuff or don't add anything.

Pp

[email protected] 11-09-2008 02:29 AM

Yeast nutrient
 
Dick,

Use a non-Bayanu strain yeast which promotes MLF and let it go. Put
enough SO2 in the must before fermentation to keep bacteria from
forming and let the fermentation go.Also , if you can, get the Ph as
low as possible and MLF will proceed without off flavors. You don't
NEED to innoculate with MLF bacteria. Add the appropriate yeast
nutrients and DON''T sulfite after Primary or Secondary to let the MLF
finish. I don't sulfite for at least a MONTH after all sugar
fermentation is done to let MLF finish. Sulfiting to soon after the
fermentation is finished might cause the MLF to stop which is the
reason for tart wines. Let the MLF finish. Your wine won't go bad if
you delat the SO2..

Hope this helps.

Bob


On Sep 10, 4:37*pm, Dick Heckman > wrote:
> Will yeast nutrient support Malolactic cultures and does it ever go bad?
> * I've got some that been around for a good while. *I'm not sure how long.
>
> Dick



[email protected] 11-09-2008 02:32 AM

Yeast nutrient
 
BTW,
the SO2 you add at the beginning of fermentation will be gone by about
the middle of fermentation. Use SO2 liberally if the fruit is not
perfect. The fermentation will start eventually if you put to much in.
I sulfite at about 100ppm before fermentation.

Bob

On Sep 10, 8:29*pm, wrote:
> Dick,
>
> Use a non-Bayanu strain yeast which promotes MLF and let it go. Put
> enough SO2 in the must before fermentation to keep bacteria from
> forming and let the fermentation go.Also , if you can, get the Ph as
> low as possible and MLF will proceed without off flavors. You don't
> NEED to innoculate with MLF bacteria. *Add the appropriate yeast
> nutrients and DON''T sulfite after Primary or Secondary to let the MLF
> finish. I don't sulfite for at least a MONTH after all sugar
> fermentation is done to let MLF finish. Sulfiting to soon after the
> fermentation is finished might cause the MLF to stop which is the
> reason for tart wines. Let the MLF finish. Your wine won't go bad if
> you delat the SO2..
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Bob
>
> On Sep 10, 4:37*pm, Dick Heckman > wrote:
>
> > Will yeast nutrient support Malolactic cultures and does it ever go bad?
> > * I've got some that been around for a good while. *I'm not sure how long.

>
> > Dick



Dick Heckman[_2_] 14-09-2008 03:42 PM

Yeast nutrient
 
Thanks for the heads up that malo nutrient is different than yeast
nutrient and the hints on MLF. As a general rule though, does yeast
nutrient ever go stale?

Dick



wrote:
> BTW,
> the SO2 you add at the beginning of fermentation will be gone by about
> the middle of fermentation. Use SO2 liberally if the fruit is not
> perfect. The fermentation will start eventually if you put to much in.
> I sulfite at about 100ppm before fermentation.
>
> Bob
>
> On Sep 10, 8:29 pm, wrote:
>> Dick,
>>
>> Use a non-Bayanu strain yeast which promotes MLF and let it go. Put
>> enough SO2 in the must before fermentation to keep bacteria from
>> forming and let the fermentation go.Also , if you can, get the Ph as
>> low as possible and MLF will proceed without off flavors. You don't
>> NEED to innoculate with MLF bacteria. Add the appropriate yeast
>> nutrients and DON''T sulfite after Primary or Secondary to let the MLF
>> finish. I don't sulfite for at least a MONTH after all sugar
>> fermentation is done to let MLF finish. Sulfiting to soon after the
>> fermentation is finished might cause the MLF to stop which is the
>> reason for tart wines. Let the MLF finish. Your wine won't go bad if
>> you delat the SO2..
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> On Sep 10, 4:37 pm, Dick Heckman > wrote:
>>
>>> Will yeast nutrient support Malolactic cultures and does it ever go bad?
>>> I've got some that been around for a good while. I'm not sure how long.
>>> Dick

>


pp 15-09-2008 05:39 PM

Yeast nutrient
 
It's one of those questions that might be hard to answer, it depends
on what's in the nutrient and who you ask - manufacturers have vested
interest. If you don't know how old yours is, err on the side of
caution and get it fresh - that stuff is pretty cheap.

Pp


On Sep 14, 7:42*am, Dick Heckman > wrote:
> Thanks for the heads up that malo nutrient is different than yeast
> nutrient and the hints on MLF. *As a general rule though, does yeast
> nutrient ever go *stale?
>
> Dick
>
>
>
> wrote:
> > BTW,
> > the SO2 you add at the beginning of fermentation will be gone by about
> > the middle of fermentation. Use SO2 liberally if the fruit is not
> > perfect. The fermentation will start eventually if you put to much in.
> > I sulfite at about 100ppm before fermentation.

>
> > Bob

>
> > On Sep 10, 8:29 pm, wrote:
> >> Dick,

>
> >> Use a non-Bayanu strain yeast which promotes MLF and let it go. Put
> >> enough SO2 in the must before fermentation to keep bacteria from
> >> forming and let the fermentation go.Also , if you can, get the Ph as
> >> low as possible and MLF will proceed without off flavors. You don't
> >> NEED to innoculate with MLF bacteria. *Add the appropriate yeast
> >> nutrients and DON''T sulfite after Primary or Secondary to let the MLF
> >> finish. I don't sulfite for at least a MONTH after all sugar
> >> fermentation is done to let MLF finish. Sulfiting to soon after the
> >> fermentation is finished might cause the MLF to stop which is the
> >> reason for tart wines. Let the MLF finish. Your wine won't go bad if
> >> you delat the SO2..

>
> >> Hope this helps.

>
> >> Bob

>
> >> On Sep 10, 4:37 pm, Dick Heckman > wrote:

>
> >>> Will yeast nutrient support Malolactic cultures and does it ever go bad?
> >>> * I've got some that been around for a good while. *I'm not sure how long.
> >>> Dick- Hide quoted text -

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