I have 2 new carboys in my collection that i just bought. They are
used and are really really really nasty. They have caked on residue of
some kind.

I have tried everything i know.. scrubbing with that "L" shaped
brush. STRAIGHT- A CLEANSER. soaking for days.

I evan made some home-made crude drill attached brushes (dowels with
zip-ties).

At (my) last resort, i soaked in CLR.

and then washed them out.


Still

Caked on residue.


Should i pitch them can call them a loss? (They wer 5 bucks each. I
just hate to to that.)

ideas?

On Mar 31, 3:19*am, Wayne Harris > wrote:
> I have 2 new carboys in my collection that i just bought. They are
> used and are really really really nasty. They have caked on residue of
> some kind.
>
> I have tried everything i know.. *scrubbing with that "L" shaped
> brush. *STRAIGHT- A CLEANSER. *soaking for days.
>
> I evan made some home-made crude drill attached brushes (dowels with
> zip-ties).
>
> At (my) last resort, i soaked in CLR.
>
> and then washed them out.
>
> Still
>
> Caked on residue.
>
> Should i pitch them can call them a loss? *(They wer 5 bucks each. *I
> just hate to to that.)
>
> ideas?

One solution to cleaning the inside of glass carboys is to put some
stainless steel link chain in there with a mild detergent and swirling
the carboy to get the solution including the chain to whoosh around
causing mild abrasion in the carboy. Sometimes this works where
scrubbing with a carboy brush fails...

Jim

On Mar 30, 10:36*pm, jim c > wrote:
> On Mar 31, 3:19*am, Wayne Harris > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I have 2 new carboys in my collection that i just bought. They are
> > used and are really really really nasty. They have caked on residue of
> > some kind.
>
> > I have tried everything i know.. *scrubbing with that "L" shaped
> > brush. *STRAIGHT- A CLEANSER. *soaking for days.
>
> > I evan made some home-made crude drill attached brushes (dowels with
> > zip-ties).
>
> > At (my) last resort, i soaked in CLR.
>
> > and then washed them out.
>
> > Still
>
> > Caked on residue.
>
> > Should i pitch them can call them a loss? *(They wer 5 bucks each. *I
> > just hate to to that.)
>
> > ideas?
>
> One solution to cleaning the inside of glass carboys is to put some
> stainless steel link chain in there with a mild detergent and swirling
> the carboy to get the solution including the chain to whoosh around
> causing mild abrasion in the carboy. *Sometimes this works where
> scrubbing with a carboy brush fails...
>
> Jim- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Try bleach. If they are etched nothing will work, but it's hard to
imagine that is your issue.

A couple things I have done:

1. Put some coarse sand in the carboy, along with your detergent /
cleaner and swirl it vigorously. But given the things you've tried
already - that likely won't get it done.
2. It may be more of a stain - much like in a decanter - which might
lift with a solution of rubbing alcohol and salt. Let is soak on the
stained areas, with occassional swirling.

Good luck.


On 2008-03-30 19:19:42 -0700, Wayne Harris > said:

> I have 2 new carboys in my collection that i just bought. They are
> used and are really really really nasty. They have caked on residue of
> some kind.
>
> I have tried everything i know.. scrubbing with that "L" shaped
> brush. STRAIGHT- A CLEANSER. soaking for days.
>
> I evan made some home-made crude drill attached brushes (dowels with
> zip-ties).
>
> At (my) last resort, i soaked in CLR.
>
> and then washed them out.
>
>
> Still
>
> Caked on residue.
>
>
> Should i pitch them can call them a loss? (They wer 5 bucks each. I
> just hate to to that.)
>
> ideas?

I know its far fetched but try alot of salt and ice cubes.
You coffee drinkers know that salt and ice will take the coffee stains out.
Another idea is a vinegar solution 50/50.
Tom

--

Home of the
MOON RIVER BREWERY
and
DELANCO VINEYARDS




"Wayne Harris" > wrote in message
...
>I have 2 new carboys in my collection that i just bought. They are
> used and are really really really nasty. They have caked on residue of
> some kind.
>
> I have tried everything i know.. scrubbing with that "L" shaped
> brush. STRAIGHT- A CLEANSER. soaking for days.
>
> I evan made some home-made crude drill attached brushes (dowels with
> zip-ties).
>
> At (my) last resort, i soaked in CLR.
>
> and then washed them out.
>
>
> Still
>
> Caked on residue.
>
>
> Should i pitch them can call them a loss? (They wer 5 bucks each. I
> just hate to to that.)
>
> ideas?
>
>

"Wayne Harris" > wrote in message
...
>I have 2 new carboys in my collection that i just bought. They are
> used and are really really really nasty. They have caked on residue of
> some kind.
>
> I have tried everything i know.. scrubbing with that "L" shaped
> brush. STRAIGHT- A CLEANSER. soaking for days.
>
> I evan made some home-made crude drill attached brushes (dowels with
> zip-ties).
>
> At (my) last resort, i soaked in CLR.
>
> and then washed them out.
>
>
> Still
>
> Caked on residue.
>
>
> Should i pitch them can call them a loss? (They wer 5 bucks each. I
> just hate to to that.)
>
> ideas?
>

Wayne,
I would try full strength Clorox. Pour in half a jug of Clorox. Plug the
mouth. Role the carboy around every few minutes for an hour or so.
Good luck,
Lum

On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:22:13 -0700, "Lum Eisenman"
> wrote:

>
>"Wayne Harris" > wrote in message
...
>>I have 2 new carboys in my collection that i just bought. They are
>> used and are really really really nasty. They have caked on residue of
>> some kind.
>>
>> I have tried everything i know.. scrubbing with that "L" shaped
>> brush. STRAIGHT- A CLEANSER. soaking for days.
>>
>> I evan made some home-made crude drill attached brushes (dowels with
>> zip-ties).
>>
>> At (my) last resort, i soaked in CLR.
>>
>> and then washed them out.
>>
>>
>> Still
>>
>> Caked on residue.
>>
>>
>> Should i pitch them can call them a loss? (They wer 5 bucks each. I
>> just hate to to that.)
>>
>> ideas?
>>
>
>Wayne,
>I would try full strength Clorox. Pour in half a jug of Clorox. Plug the
>mouth. Role the carboy around every few minutes for an hour or so.
>Good luck,
>Lum
You cannot beat bleach and water, just let it soak for a while.

Jim wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:22:13 -0700, "Lum Eisenman"
> > wrote:
>
>> "Wayne Harris" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I have 2 new carboys in my collection that i just bought. They are
>>> used and are really really really nasty. They have caked on residue of
>>> some kind.
>>>
>>> I have tried everything i know.. scrubbing with that "L" shaped
>>> brush. STRAIGHT- A CLEANSER. soaking for days.
>>>
>>> I evan made some home-made crude drill attached brushes (dowels with
>>> zip-ties).
>>>
>>> At (my) last resort, i soaked in CLR.
>>>
>>> and then washed them out.
>>>
>>>
>>> Still
>>>
>>> Caked on residue.
>>>
>>>
>>> Should i pitch them can call them a loss? (They wer 5 bucks each. I
>>> just hate to to that.)
>>>
>>> ideas?
>>>
>> Wayne,
>> I would try full strength Clorox. Pour in half a jug of Clorox. Plug the
>> mouth. Role the carboy around every few minutes for an hour or so.
>> Good luck,
>> Lum
> You cannot beat bleach and water, just let it soak for a while.

You can beat it with concentrated sulfuric acid/permanganate, which will
rapidly oxidize anything organic, but few will have access that that.
Dump the grubby carboys and get some new ones - you'll know what has
been in them.

C

On Mar 30, 9:19 pm, Wayne Harris > wrote:
> I have 2 new carboys in my collection that i just bought. They are
> used and are really really really nasty. They have caked on residue of
> some kind.
>
> I have tried everything i know.. scrubbing with that "L" shaped
> brush. STRAIGHT- A CLEANSER. soaking for days.
>
> I evan made some home-made crude drill attached brushes (dowels with
> zip-ties).
>
> At (my) last resort, i soaked in CLR.
>
> and then washed them out.
>
> Still
>
> Caked on residue.
>
> Should i pitch them can call them a loss? (They wer 5 bucks each. I
> just hate to to that.)
>
> ideas?

Try muratic acid it is availible from swimming pool supply stores.

On Apr 5, 3:11*pm, fasteddy999 > wrote:
> On Mar 30, 9:19 pm, Wayne Harris > wrote:
>
>
>
> > I have 2 new carboys in my collection that i just bought. They are
> > used and are really really really nasty. They have caked on residue of
> > some kind.
>
> > I have tried everything i know.. *scrubbing with that "L" shaped
> > brush. *STRAIGHT- A CLEANSER. *soaking for days.
>
> > I evan made some home-made crude drill attached brushes (dowels with
> > zip-ties).
>
> > At (my) last resort, i soaked in CLR.
>
> > and then washed them out.
>
> > Still
>
> > Caked on residue.
>
> > Should i pitch them can call them a loss? *(They wer 5 bucks each. *I
> > just hate to to that.)
>
> > ideas?
>
> Try muratic acid it is availible from swimming pool supply stores.

Any luck to report Wayne or are you going to try a tactical nuke and
if that doesn't work, get new ones?

Jim

On Apr 5, 8:33*pm, jim c > wrote:
> On Apr 5, 3:11*pm, fasteddy999 > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 30, 9:19 pm, Wayne Harris > wrote:
>
> > > I have 2 new carboys in my collection that i just bought. They are
> > > used and are really really really nasty. They have caked on residue of
> > > some kind.
>
> > > I have tried everything i know.. *scrubbing with that "L" shaped
> > > brush. *STRAIGHT- A CLEANSER. *soaking for days.
>
> > > I evan made some home-made crude drill attached brushes (dowels with
> > > zip-ties).
>
> > > At (my) last resort, i soaked in CLR.
>
> > > and then washed them out.
>
> > > Still
>
> > > Caked on residue.
>
> > > Should i pitch them can call them a loss? *(They wer 5 bucks each. *I
> > > just hate to to that.)
>
> > > ideas?
>
> > Try muratic acid it is availible from swimming pool supply stores.
>
> Any luck to report Wayne or are you going to try a tactical nuke and
> if that doesn't work, get new ones?
>
> Jim- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Well,

These stains just laughed at the carboy brush.

I am still at it. But it think i have the formula now
.
Lemme just say, that if i were not such a cheap *******, i would have
pitched these two carboys..

But several nights of soaking, some with just soap, and straight A
cleanser, and others with some CLR.

But the best seems to be with the 10 ft length of chain. That amounts
to about a big handful of chain. (Home Depot part number 587-060)

I am spending some quality time roling that arround with some warm
water and CLR. I can actually see through it now.

The chain was the key... I think i can save them.

On Apr 6, 3:08*am, Wayne Harris > wrote:
> On Apr 5, 8:33*pm, jim c > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 5, 3:11*pm, fasteddy999 > wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 30, 9:19 pm, Wayne Harris > wrote:
>
> > > > I have 2 new carboys in my collection that i just bought. They are
> > > > used and are really really really nasty. They have caked on residue of
> > > > some kind.
>
> > > > I have tried everything i know.. *scrubbing with that "L" shaped
> > > > brush. *STRAIGHT- A CLEANSER. *soaking for days.
>
> > > > I evan made some home-made crude drill attached brushes (dowels with
> > > > zip-ties).
>
> > > > At (my) last resort, i soaked in CLR.
>
> > > > and then washed them out.
>
> > > > Still
>
> > > > Caked on residue.
>
> > > > Should i pitch them can call them a loss? *(They wer 5 bucks each. *I
> > > > just hate to to that.)
>
> > > > ideas?
>
> > > Try muratic acid it is availible from swimming pool supply stores.
>
> > Any luck to report Wayne or are you going to try a tactical nuke and
> > if that doesn't work, get new ones?
>
> > Jim- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Well,
>
> These stains just laughed at the carboy brush.
>
> I am still at it. *But it think i have the formula now
> .
> Lemme just say, that if i were not such a cheap *******, i would have
> pitched these two carboys..
>
> But several nights of soaking, some with just soap, and straight A
> cleanser, and others with some CLR.
>
> But the best seems to be with the 10 ft length of chain. That amounts
> to about a big handful of chain. *(Home Depot part number 587-060)
>
> I am spending some quality time roling that arround with some warm
> water and CLR. *I can actually see through it now.
>
> The chain was the key... I think i can save them.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Excellent news! I am always loathe to throw things out which can be
saved. Sometimes I wonder if its O.C.D. or a valuable use of my time,
but I am always happy to see old kit back in action and working
well

Jim

> > On Apr 5, 3:11 pm, fasteddy999 > wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 30, 9:19 pm, Wayne Harris > wrote:
>
> > > > I have 2 new carboys in my collection that i just bought. They are
> > > > used and are really really really nasty. They have caked on residue
> > > > of
> > > > some kind.
>
> > > > I have tried everything i know.. scrubbing with that "L" shaped
> > > > brush. STRAIGHT- A CLEANSER. soaking for days.
>
> > > > I evan made some home-made crude drill attached brushes (dowels with
> > > > zip-ties).
>
> > > > At (my) last resort, i soaked in CLR.
>
> > > > and then washed them out.
>
> > > > Still
>
> > > > Caked on residue.
>
> > > > Should i pitch them can call them a loss? (They wer 5 bucks each. I
> > > > just hate to to that.)
>
> > > > ideas?
>
> > > Try muratic acid it is availible from swimming pool supply stores.
>
> > Any luck to report Wayne or are you going to try a tactical nuke and
> > if that doesn't work, get new ones?
>
> > Jim- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Well,
>
> These stains just laughed at the carboy brush.
>
> I am still at it. But it think i have the formula now
> .
> Lemme just say, that if i were not such a cheap *******, i would have
> pitched these two carboys..
>
> But several nights of soaking, some with just soap, and straight A
> cleanser, and others with some CLR.
>
> But the best seems to be with the 10 ft length of chain. That amounts
> to about a big handful of chain. (Home Depot part number 587-060)
>
> I am spending some quality time roling that arround with some warm
> water and CLR. I can actually see through it now.
>
> The chain was the key... I think i can save them.- Hide quoted text -

I'm kinda late on this thread, so I hope this hasn't been thrown out there,
already. I hate to throw things away just out of principle. Anyway, I've
always had very good luck with Oxyclean free. And I'm pretty lazy when it
comes to cleaning things. Even after letting my carboys sit around and grow
mold and who knows what else, and then dessicate in my garage, a good soak
with oxyclean has always done the trick. I then sanitize with iodine and put
plastic wrap on the tops when they are dry for storage. But, you may have
already tried this. Be careful, with the chain. I've had a full 5 gallon
carboy of beer break in my garage. The suck factor was high.

kev

Did you try bleach

On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 05:07:20 -0700 (PDT), jim c >
wrote:

>On Apr 6, 3:08*am, Wayne Harris > wrote:
>> On Apr 5, 8:33*pm, jim c > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 5, 3:11*pm, fasteddy999 > wrote:
>>
>> > > On Mar 30, 9:19 pm, Wayne Harris > wrote:
>>
>> > > > I have 2 new carboys in my collection that i just bought. They are
>> > > > used and are really really really nasty. They have caked on residue of
>> > > > some kind.
>>
>> > > > I have tried everything i know.. *scrubbing with that "L" shaped
>> > > > brush. *STRAIGHT- A CLEANSER. *soaking for days.
>>
>> > > > I evan made some home-made crude drill attached brushes (dowels with
>> > > > zip-ties).
>>
>> > > > At (my) last resort, i soaked in CLR.
>>
>> > > > and then washed them out.
>>
>> > > > Still
>>
>> > > > Caked on residue.
>>
>> > > > Should i pitch them can call them a loss? *(They wer 5 bucks each. *I
>> > > > just hate to to that.)
>>
>> > > > ideas?
>>
>> > > Try muratic acid it is availible from swimming pool supply stores.
>>
>> > Any luck to report Wayne or are you going to try a tactical nuke and
>> > if that doesn't work, get new ones?
>>
>> > Jim- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Well,
>>
>> These stains just laughed at the carboy brush.
>>
>> I am still at it. *But it think i have the formula now
>> .
>> Lemme just say, that if i were not such a cheap *******, i would have
>> pitched these two carboys..
>>
>> But several nights of soaking, some with just soap, and straight A
>> cleanser, and others with some CLR.
>>
>> But the best seems to be with the 10 ft length of chain. That amounts
>> to about a big handful of chain. *(Home Depot part number 587-060)
>>
>> I am spending some quality time roling that arround with some warm
>> water and CLR. *I can actually see through it now.
>>
>> The chain was the key... I think i can save them.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Excellent news! I am always loathe to throw things out which can be
>saved. Sometimes I wonder if its O.C.D. or a valuable use of my time,
>but I am always happy to see old kit back in action and working
>well
>
>Jim