carbonation, cider vs beer
 

I thought my sparkling cider came out flat. Then I noticed that everywhere I
looked, the amount of sugar recommended for priming in cider is about half
that of beer. Is this just traditional or is there another reason cider is
prepared with less carbonation than beer? Is there any reason I shouldn't
prime cider the same as for beer?


Thanks,

carbonation, cider vs beer
 

"d36wfgvsbw2654" > wrote in message
...
>I thought my sparkling cider came out flat. Then I noticed that
>everywhere I
> looked, the amount of sugar recommended for priming in cider is
> about half
> that of beer. Is this just traditional or is there another reason
> cider is
> prepared with less carbonation than beer? Is there any reason I
> shouldn't
> prime cider the same as for beer?

I use CO2, but carbonate similarly. If you like more, use more. But do
remember than cider will ferment out further. Mine usually ends at
1.000 or lower. Keep this in mind to avoid bottle bombs.

Bob

carbonation, cider vs beer
 

On Jun 15, 2:34 pm, "Bob F" > wrote:
> "d36wfgvsbw2654" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> >I thought my sparkling cider came out flat. Then I noticed that
> >everywhere I
> > looked, the amount of sugar recommended for priming in cider is
> > about half
> > that of beer. Is this just traditional or is there another reason
> > cider is
> > prepared with less carbonation than beer? Is there any reason I
> > shouldn't
> > prime cider the same as for beer?
>
> I use CO2, but carbonate similarly. If you like more, use more. But do
> remember than cider will ferment out further. Mine usually ends at
> 1.000 or lower. Keep this in mind to avoid bottle bombs.
>
> Bob

I'm just a beginner, but I would have thought that fruit for cider
would have more natural sugar = more fermentation = more carbonation

Brett

carbonation, cider vs beer
 

Electric Monk > wrote:
>On Jun 15, 2:34 pm, "Bob F" > wrote:
>> "d36wfgvsbw2654" > wrote in message
>> >I thought my sparkling cider came out flat. Then I noticed that
>> >everywhere I looked, the amount of sugar recommended for priming
>> >in cider is about half that of beer. Is this just traditional or
>> > is there another reason cider is prepared with less carbonation
>> > than beer? Is there any reason I shouldn't prime cider the same
>> > as for beer?

Sure, but then the question is what style of beer?
Belgian Golden? British Mild? German Weizen? I've
had both cider and beer that was all over the place
carbonation-wise (except for still beer).

>> I use CO2, but carbonate similarly. If you like more, use more. But do
>> remember than cider will ferment out further. Mine usually ends at
>> 1.000 or lower. Keep this in mind to avoid bottle bombs.

>I'm just a beginner, but I would have thought that fruit for cider
>would have more natural sugar = more fermentation = more carbonation

Generally, both beer and cider are fermented completely
out, i.e., the yeast have no more sugar to work with. Then
it's primed (additional sugar added) just before bottling,
so the CO2 that is formed from the yeast activity on the
additional sugar results in carbonation.
So Bob, it shouldn't matter what the final gravity is,
the same amount of CO2 should be generated regardless. And
Monk, the source of the sugars for the initial fermentation
phase doesn't matter-- it's what put in the bottle/keg after
complete fermentation that matters.
--
Joel Plutchak "They're not people, they're HIPPIES!"
$LASTNAME at VERYWARMmail.com - Eric Cartman

carbonation, cider vs beer
 

"Joel" > wrote in message
...
> Electric Monk > wrote:
>>On Jun 15, 2:34 pm, "Bob F" > wrote:
>>> "d36wfgvsbw2654" > wrote in
>>> message
>>> >I thought my sparkling cider came out flat. Then I noticed that
>>> >everywhere I looked, the amount of sugar recommended for priming
>>> >in cider is about half that of beer. Is this just traditional or
>>> > is there another reason cider is prepared with less carbonation
>>> > than beer? Is there any reason I shouldn't prime cider the same
>>> > as for beer?
>
> Sure, but then the question is what style of beer?
> Belgian Golden? British Mild? German Weizen? I've
> had both cider and beer that was all over the place
> carbonation-wise (except for still beer).
>
>>> I use CO2, but carbonate similarly. If you like more, use more.
>>> But do
>>> remember than cider will ferment out further. Mine usually ends at
>>> 1.000 or lower. Keep this in mind to avoid bottle bombs.
>
>>I'm just a beginner, but I would have thought that fruit for cider
>>would have more natural sugar = more fermentation = more carbonation
>
> Generally, both beer and cider are fermented completely
> out, i.e., the yeast have no more sugar to work with. Then
> it's primed (additional sugar added) just before bottling,
> so the CO2 that is formed from the yeast activity on the
> additional sugar results in carbonation.
> So Bob, it shouldn't matter what the final gravity is,
> the same amount of CO2 should be generated regardless. And
> Monk, the source of the sugars for the initial fermentation
> phase doesn't matter-- it's what put in the bottle/keg after
> complete fermentation that matters.

The point was, that if you normally expect fermentation to be over
when it gets down to 1.010 or something, you could bottle too early
because cider goes further.

Bob

carbonation, cider vs beer
 

d36wfgvsbw2654 wrote:
>
> I thought my sparkling cider came out flat. Then I noticed that everywhere I
> looked, the amount of sugar recommended for priming in cider is about half
> that of beer. Is this just traditional or is there another reason cider is
> prepared with less carbonation than beer? Is there any reason I shouldn't
> prime cider the same as for beer?
>
> Thanks,

I prime my cider with the same 1 oz./gal. of corn sugar as I do my beer.

------------>Denny

--
Life begins at 60...1.060, that is.

carbonation, cider vs beer
 

On Jun 15, 11:29 pm, (Joel) wrote:
> Electric Monk > wrote:
>
> >On Jun 15, 2:34 pm, "Bob F" > wrote:
> >> "d36wfgvsbw2654" > wrote in message
> >> >I thought my sparkling cider came out flat. Then I noticed that
> >> >everywhere I looked, the amount of sugar recommended for priming
> >> >in cider is about half that of beer. Is this just traditional or
> >> > is there another reason cider is prepared with less carbonation
> >> > than beer? Is there any reason I shouldn't prime cider the same
> >> > as for beer?
>
> Sure, but then the question is what style of beer?
> Belgian Golden? British Mild? German Weizen? I've
> had both cider and beer that was all over the place
> carbonation-wise (except for still beer).
>
> >> I use CO2, but carbonate similarly. If you like more, use more. But do
> >> remember than cider will ferment out further. Mine usually ends at
> >> 1.000 or lower. Keep this in mind to avoid bottle bombs.
> >I'm just a beginner, but I would have thought that fruit for cider
> >would have more natural sugar = more fermentation = more carbonation
>
> Generally, both beer and cider are fermented completely
> out, i.e., the yeast have no more sugar to work with. Then
> it's primed (additional sugar added) just before bottling,
> so the CO2 that is formed from the yeast activity on the
> additional sugar results in carbonation.
> So Bob, it shouldn't matter what the final gravity is,
> the same amount of CO2 should be generated regardless. And
> Monk, the source of the sugars for the initial fermentation
> phase doesn't matter-- it's what put in the bottle/keg after
> complete fermentation that matters.
> --
> Joel Plutchak "They're not people, they're HIPPIES!"
> $LASTNAME at VERYWARMmail.com - Eric Cartman

Thanks, Joel. My mistake.