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jim 28-09-2006 08:25 PM

Why not squeeze the straining bag?
 
I know it's probably an obvious one, but in making a gallon batch of black currant wine, the recipe says not to squeeze
the straining bag when removing it. I wondered why as it doesn't explain.

(I use a large double layer fine nylong straining bag. When I lift it out, a hell of a lot of liquid is still in the
bag. If I just let it drip through it would take a few days hanging, if I discard it I am losing a good 500ml of
liquid. So I disobeyed and squeezed very gently making the bag tight above the pulp but not directly squeezing it until
there was about one and a half wineglasses of fluid left amongst the fruit spoils.There was no obvious passage of any
puree or anything through the mesh.)

Thanks for any knowledge offered!

Jim



Dave Allison 28-09-2006 09:18 PM

Why not squeeze the straining bag?
 
I've not done black currant, but I've done a few fruit recipes
(cranberry, peach, peach-mango, mango, pumpkin, blueberry, strawberry)
and some stated "don't squeeze", allow to drip, I think they were
thinking we had course nylon bags, which I don't use. So I squeezed
also. The main purpose I'd guess is to not get the solids coming
through. All my fruit wines came out great. Very clear if patient.

DAve

jim wrote:
> I know it's probably an obvious one, but in making a gallon batch of black currant wine, the recipe says not to squeeze
> the straining bag when removing it. I wondered why as it doesn't explain.
>
> (I use a large double layer fine nylong straining bag. When I lift it out, a hell of a lot of liquid is still in the
> bag. If I just let it drip through it would take a few days hanging, if I discard it I am losing a good 500ml of
> liquid. So I disobeyed and squeezed very gently making the bag tight above the pulp but not directly squeezing it until
> there was about one and a half wineglasses of fluid left amongst the fruit spoils.There was no obvious passage of any
> puree or anything through the mesh.)
>
> Thanks for any knowledge offered!
>
> Jim
>
>


jim 28-09-2006 10:52 PM

Why not squeeze the straining bag?
 
Cool, thanks for the info Dave, I suspected the same :)
Jim

"Dave Allison" > wrote in message . ..
> I've not done black currant, but I've done a few fruit recipes (cranberry, peach, peach-mango, mango, pumpkin,
> blueberry, strawberry) and some stated "don't squeeze", allow to drip, I think they were thinking we had course nylon
> bags, which I don't use. So I squeezed also. The main purpose I'd guess is to not get the solids coming through. All
> my fruit wines came out great. Very clear if patient.
>
> DAve
>
> jim wrote:
>> I know it's probably an obvious one, but in making a gallon batch of black currant wine, the recipe says not to
>> squeeze the straining bag when removing it. I wondered why as it doesn't explain.
>>
>> (I use a large double layer fine nylong straining bag. When I lift it out, a hell of a lot of liquid is still in the
>> bag. If I just let it drip through it would take a few days hanging, if I discard it I am losing a good 500ml of
>> liquid. So I disobeyed and squeezed very gently making the bag tight above the pulp but not directly squeezing it
>> until there was about one and a half wineglasses of fluid left amongst the fruit spoils.There was no obvious passage
>> of any puree or anything through the mesh.)
>>
>> Thanks for any knowledge offered!
>>
>> Jim




Davef 29-09-2006 09:34 PM

Why not squeeze the straining bag?
 
Squeeze it and you get more of the pectin, that in turn can cause ,
unless you use pectin enzyme, the finished wine to be cloudy. Some low
pectin fruits you can get away with it, others , again unless you use
enzyme, will be cloudy.


jim 29-09-2006 09:40 PM

Why not squeeze the straining bag?
 
Right, thanks. Pectin was on my list of possibilities too. The recipe suggests using a pectin enzyme before yeast is
added, which I did. Pressumably there's still some in the pulp which is freed by squeezing then.

Thanks Dave

"Davef" > wrote in message oups.com...
> Squeeze it and you get more of the pectin, that in turn can cause ,
> unless you use pectin enzyme, the finished wine to be cloudy. Some low
> pectin fruits you can get away with it, others , again unless you use
> enzyme, will be cloudy.
>




Franco 29-09-2006 09:58 PM

Why not squeeze the straining bag?
 
I thought that the reason for not squeezing the bag was to not extract
much tannin.



jim wrote:
> I know it's probably an obvious one, but in making a gallon batch of black currant wine, the recipe says not to squeeze
> the straining bag when removing it. I wondered why as it doesn't explain.
>
> (I use a large double layer fine nylong straining bag. When I lift it out, a hell of a lot of liquid is still in the
> bag. If I just let it drip through it would take a few days hanging, if I discard it I am losing a good 500ml of
> liquid. So I disobeyed and squeezed very gently making the bag tight above the pulp but not directly squeezing it until
> there was about one and a half wineglasses of fluid left amongst the fruit spoils.There was no obvious passage of any
> puree or anything through the mesh.)
>
> Thanks for any knowledge offered!
>
> Jim




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