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sami 08-01-2006 07:39 PM

Wine & Cheese
 
Really learning that cheese and wine are not a match made in heaven,
but am looking for a few good suggestions for pairings. Any matches
for dry whites? What about mid-weight reds? Am tasting Malbecs,
Gamays, and Dolcettos...would love to experiment with cheese too......


pavane 09-01-2006 01:18 PM

Wine & Cheese
 

"sami" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Really learning that cheese and wine are not a match made in heaven,
> but am looking for a few good suggestions for pairings. Any matches
> for dry whites? What about mid-weight reds? Am tasting Malbecs,
> Gamays, and Dolcettos...would love to experiment with cheese too......
>


Here are some good places to start, but take a look yourself at
Google results for wine cheese pairing. Most people disagree on
these, of course. The trick is to have fun without going crazy
insisting that certain matches are good or bad.

pavane

http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/cpairing.htm

http://www.winesandrecipes.com/html/index-cheese.asp
requires registration but good info

http://www.inetours.com/PagesWT/Food_and_wine.html
some good links in this article

http://www.theworldwidegourmet.com/w...ine-cheese.htm
wines from Cahor are Malbecs...



Tom S 09-01-2006 02:57 PM

Wine & Cheese
 
"sami" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Really learning that cheese and wine are not a match made in heaven,
> but am looking for a few good suggestions for pairings. Any matches
> for dry whites?


Brie isn't too bad with some dry whites - particularly oak aged ones.

What about mid-weight reds? Am tasting Malbecs,
> Gamays, and Dolcettos...would love to experiment with cheese too......


I'm not big on cheese with wines, since I find that wine does more for
cheese than cheese does for wine. That said however, vintage port is a
pretty good match with many cheeses.

Tom S
www.chateauburbank.com



DaleW 09-01-2006 08:48 PM

Wine & Cheese
 
Well, for a light red (and I'm not sure I'd put Dolcetto in that
category- some are quite tannic- malbecs, too) I'd personally probably
go for something not too sharp and definitely not runny. Think young
Gouda, Edam, Morbier, Emmenthaler, Manchego. A bigger red might be
better for a sharper/older cheese like Hoch Ybrig, 5 year old Gouda,
Parmigiano Reggiano, or a good aged cheddar.

Dry white is a pretty big category. The match of Loire Sauvignon Blanc
and chevre is pretty classic. I think dry Riesling and Munster is also
a good match. I enjoyed Citeaux with white Burgundy this weekend.

Though I'm on record as liking Epoisses and red Burgundy, in general I
find
whites do better (or often, just less badly) with any cheese on the
stinky or
runny end of the spectrum.


[email protected] 09-01-2006 08:58 PM

Wine & Cheese
 
Vermentino or Naragus and any white hard Italian cheese.


sami wrote:
> Really learning that cheese and wine are not a match made in heaven,
> but am looking for a few good suggestions for pairings. Any matches
> for dry whites? What about mid-weight reds? Am tasting Malbecs,
> Gamays, and Dolcettos...would love to experiment with cheese too......



Nils Gustaf Lindgren 09-01-2006 09:16 PM

Wine & Cheese
 
"DaleW" > skrev i meddelandet
oups.com...
> Well, for a light red (and I'm not sure I'd put Dolcetto in that
> category- some are quite tannic- malbecs, too) I'd personally probably
> go for something not too sharp and definitely not runny. Think young
> Gouda, Edam, Morbier, Emmenthaler, Manchego.


Many of these will do very well with a not too oaky Chardonnay - this is
being explicit, but I am particularly fond of a Ladoix Clou dŽOrges with
Emmenthaler and such-like.

> A bigger red might be
> better for a sharper/older cheese like Hoch Ybrig, 5 year old Gouda,
> Parmigiano Reggiano, or a good aged cheddar.


Is this where we mention Amarone with Parmigiano?

>... I think dry Riesling and Munster is also
> a good match. I enjoyed Citeaux with white Burgundy this weekend.


Possibly, but try a Gewurztraminer with Munster, OR Epoisse, OR, for that
matter, a Reblochon.

As somebody pointed out, the main thing is to have fun, right?

Cheers

Nils Gustaf

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[email protected] 09-01-2006 09:24 PM

Wine & Cheese
 
I cannot imagine red wines and cheese together unless olives
particpate...


Nils Gustaf Lindgren wrote:
> "DaleW" > skrev i meddelandet
> oups.com...
> > Well, for a light red (and I'm not sure I'd put Dolcetto in that
> > category- some are quite tannic- malbecs, too) I'd personally probably
> > go for something not too sharp and definitely not runny. Think young
> > Gouda, Edam, Morbier, Emmenthaler, Manchego.

>
> Many of these will do very well with a not too oaky Chardonnay - this is
> being explicit, but I am particularly fond of a Ladoix Clou dŽOrges with
> Emmenthaler and such-like.
>
> > A bigger red might be
> > better for a sharper/older cheese like Hoch Ybrig, 5 year old Gouda,
> > Parmigiano Reggiano, or a good aged cheddar.

>
> Is this where we mention Amarone with Parmigiano?
>
> >... I think dry Riesling and Munster is also
> > a good match. I enjoyed Citeaux with white Burgundy this weekend.

>
> Possibly, but try a Gewurztraminer with Munster, OR Epoisse, OR, for that
> matter, a Reblochon.
>
> As somebody pointed out, the main thing is to have fun, right?
>
> Cheers
>
> Nils Gustaf
>
> --
> Respond to nils dot lindgren at drchips dot se



Ronin 09-01-2006 10:15 PM

Wine & Cheese
 
"sami" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Really learning that cheese and wine are not a match made in heaven,
> but am looking for a few good suggestions for pairings. Any matches
> for dry whites? What about mid-weight reds? Am tasting Malbecs,
> Gamays, and Dolcettos...would love to experiment with cheese too......


Proving once again that taste is in the mouth of the taster, I am personally
a big fan of fat, juicy reds like old vine Zinfandels and Petit Syrahs with
sheep cheeses like Manchego and so on. On the other hand, the blues with
vintage Port is OK, but no whing-dinger, to me...



Leo Bueno 11-01-2006 11:03 PM

Wine & Cheese
 

With respect to *red* wine and cheese pairings, there is empirical
evidence that the much touted match between wine and cheese is
bull$hit--as are many other rules of thumb in the wine industry.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...IGFFD8IBQ1.DTL



On 8 Jan 2006 11:39:57 -0800, "sami" > wrote:

>Really learning that cheese and wine are not a match made in heaven,
>but am looking for a few good suggestions for pairings. Any matches
>for dry whites? What about mid-weight reds? Am tasting Malbecs,
>Gamays, and Dolcettos...would love to experiment with cheese too......


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Ian Hoare 12-01-2006 09:05 PM

Wine & Cheese
 
Salut/Hi Leo Bueno,

le/on Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:03:45 GMT, tu disais/you said:-

>
>With respect to *red* wine and cheese pairings, there is empirical
>evidence that the much touted match between wine and cheese is
>bull$hit--as are many other rules of thumb in the wine industry.
>
>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...IGFFD8IBQ1.DTL


I took part in a wine cheese matching experiment for "Wine" magazine that
cast doubt on the cheese/red wine partnership about 20 years ago, Leo. The
article was to be called
"Perfect partners"

It ended up being called "Perfect Partners?"

Mind you, they didn't include any of the cheeses that I reckon to be a half
way decent match with red wines.

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