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Everyday "house wine"
I'm curious what the other wine fanatics out there consider their "house wines"--those red and/or white wines that you always keep on day, drink with most meals, and feel is economical enough to stock by the half-case or case. Anyone have any recommendations? Thanks, Mike -- http://www.webwinerack.com - Wine, Wine Reviews, and Wine Information |
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"MikeD" > wrote in message . .. > > I'm curious what the other wine fanatics out there consider their "house > wines"--those red and/or white wines that you always keep on day, drink > with most meals, and feel is economical enough to stock by the half-case > or case. > > Anyone have any recommendations? > >I think the Pocketbook decides in this case. Some of my friends use a >$35.00 bottle, and some of my friends use a $6.99 bottle. I have gone as >low as $3.99 and enjoyed it. |
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Monte Antico
Copertino Salice Salentino inter alia MikeD wrote: > I'm curious what the other wine fanatics out there consider their "house > wines"--those red and/or white wines that you always keep on day, drink > with most meals, and feel is economical enough to stock by the half-case > or case. > > Anyone have any recommendations? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > -- > > http://www.webwinerack.com - Wine, Wine Reviews, and Wine Information |
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In article >, mike@webwinerack.
com says... > > >I'm curious what the other wine fanatics out there consider their "house >wines"--those red and/or white wines that you always keep on day, drink >with most meals, and feel is economical enough to stock by the half-case >or case. > >Anyone have any recommendations? > >Thanks, > >Mike > >-- Mike, There was a recent thread on this subject. For more info than you have gotten so far, you might want to look at "house wine," for this group in Google. Groups. The thread was about three months back, IIRC. For me, Caymus Conundrum for white, Costco ~US$20. Red, Glen Carlou, Grand Classique, SA, Parrl, Costco ~US$13, Bdx blend. Italian red, Gabbiano Chianti Reserva, ~US$ 18. Port, Taylors 10year Tawny, ~US$ 25. OTOH, I also open quite a few different wines nightly, depending on what wine -club shipments have arrived. These, however, are my everyday wines and are usually to be found around the house on any given evening. I do choose from about 3,000 btls for anything that I really want to pair, however. Tonight, I'm trying "kobe" burgers with a Selby Syrah, and a Duckhorn Merlot. Hunt |
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I do find it easier to buy drinkable reds as a house wine than drinkable
whites. Our long standing red is a Morgon bought at the vineyard for about £3.60. Amongst the whites we drink regularly are a (Sauvignon de) St. Bris and a Côtes d‘Auxerre Chardonnay bought, again at the vineyard, for about the same price. The truth is that ther is a lot of decent wine in France for about that money if you can be bothered (or have the time for the fun) to look for it. I would guess all those would sell in the UK for between £6.80 and £8.00, depedning on the greed of the importer! My brother‘s pub in Devon has been using a Marsanne from the Cave de Tain which retails here at £4.95+ and, recently, a Languedoc red at about the same price. Tim Hartley |
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:49:55 +0100, Timothy Hartley .=
uk> said: ] I do find it easier to buy drinkable reds as a house wine than drinkable ] whites. Our long standing red is a Morgon bought at the vineyard for about ] =A33.60. Amongst the whites we drink regularly are a (Sauvignon de) St.= Bris ] and a C=F4tes d_Auxerre Chardonnay bought, again at the vineyard, for abo= ut ] the same price. The truth is that ther is a lot of decent wine in France= =20 ] for about that money if you can be bothered (or have the time for the fun) ] to look for it. ]=20 Care to share more details, Tim? We used to get a pretty good, and _very_ cheap Sauvignon St Bris from Sorin de France. Interested in the name on the Morgon, too. Our current house table wines are usually coop cheapies from the southern Rhone, Rasteau, Beames de Venise, Vacqueyras. These coops do reliable work for around 5 Eu. There are a few Loire thrown in there too, but really mostly Rhone. For white we often use a coop Schlossberg Riesling. [] -E --=20 Emery Davis You can reply to by removing the well known companies |
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:49:55 +0100, Timothy Hartley .=
uk> said: ] I do find it easier to buy drinkable reds as a house wine than drinkable ] whites. Our long standing red is a Morgon bought at the vineyard for about ] =A33.60. Amongst the whites we drink regularly are a (Sauvignon de) St.= Bris ] and a C=F4tes d_Auxerre Chardonnay bought, again at the vineyard, for abo= ut ] the same price. The truth is that ther is a lot of decent wine in France= =20 ] for about that money if you can be bothered (or have the time for the fun) ] to look for it. ]=20 Care to share more details, Tim? We used to get a pretty good, and _very_ cheap Sauvignon St Bris from Sorin de France. Interested in the name on the Morgon, too. Our current house table wines are usually coop cheapies from the southern Rhone, Rasteau, Beames de Venise, Vacqueyras. These coops do reliable work for around 5 Eu. There are a few Loire thrown in there too, but really mostly Rhone. For white we often use a coop Schlossberg Riesling. [] -E --=20 Emery Davis You can reply to by removing the well known companies |
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In message >
Emery Davis > wrote: > On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:49:55 +0100, Timothy Hartley > said: > > ] I do find it easier to buy drinkable reds as a house wine than drinkable > ] whites. Our long standing red is a Morgon bought at the vineyard for about > ] £3.60. Amongst the whites we drink regularly are a (Sauvignon de) St. Bris > ] and a Côtes d_Auxerre Chardonnay bought, again at the vineyard, for about > ] the same price. The truth is that ther is a lot of decent wine in France > ] for about that money if you can be bothered (or have the time for the fun) > ] to look for it. > ] > > Care to share more details, Tim? The St.Bris (and the Côtes d_Auxerre Chardonnay) is from Defrance although those who like a greener more upfront style might like to try Goisot. The Mogon we usually buy is from Roland Petit at Domaine de Montplain though we have also had other good Beaujolais from both of the Caves Cooperatives at Fleurie and Chiroubles and also from M. Pein at the Domaine de Rochebonne at Theizé in Southern Beuajolais. Whilst the latter is obviously not Cru Beujolias it provides very decent drinking at a very fair price - about £2.80 a bottle when I last bought some. In fact I shall hunt out a bottle for supper, this having whetted my appetite or thirst. Whilst on the subject several of the Maconnais cooperatives also provide good everyday drinking at a fair price — Lugny and Vinzelles spring to mind as does the Cave at Buxy for Montagny and cheap red Pinots. Cheers, Tim Hartley |
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Won't surprise anyone here that our "house wines" are Austrian.
These days our easy open white is: the Hogl Terrassen Spitzergraben Riesling Federspiel 2003 (Wine & Spirits magazine just highlighted this one as a "good value" at $11.99 US) Our easy open red is: Gsellmann & Gsellmann Blauburgunder Pinot Noir 2001. But then it always depends upon what we're eating! Emily |
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I don't really have a "house wine." As wine is one of my hobbies, I
love to try new things, and to try match food & wine. It's very rare I buy anything in case quantities except for wines that I expect to have a long cellar life, where I'll drink the case over 10-25 years. That being said, there are a few favorite cheapies that are pretty much always available in cellar. Ones that Betsy knows are fine for cooking, that we like to drink, and that are great for big parties: Red: Iche "Les Heretiques" Borsao Cline CA Zin Three Thieves Zin White: Pepiere Muscadet Castelvero Cortese Brocard "Kimmeridgien" Drouhin Macon Brun Beaujolais Blanc |
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I don't really have a "house wine." As wine is one of my hobbies, I
love to try new things, and to try match food & wine. It's very rare I buy anything in case quantities except for wines that I expect to have a long cellar life, where I'll drink the case over 10-25 years. That being said, there are a few favorite cheapies that are pretty much always available in cellar. Ones that Betsy knows are fine for cooking, that we like to drink, and that are great for big parties: Red: Iche "Les Heretiques" Borsao Cline CA Zin Three Thieves Zin White: Pepiere Muscadet Castelvero Cortese Brocard "Kimmeridgien" Drouhin Macon Brun Beaujolais Blanc |
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In article >, mike@webwinerack.
com says... > > >I'm curious what the other wine fanatics out there consider their "house >wines"--those red and/or white wines that you always keep on day, drink >with most meals, and feel is economical enough to stock by the half-case >or case. > >Anyone have any recommendations? > >Thanks, > >Mike > >-- >http://www.webwinerack.com - Wine, Wine Reviews, and Wine Information Well MikeD, did you get some worthwhile wines in this thread. As I suggested, also see the previous thread for several lists from other posters. I'll be checking the Web site, to see if any of these made it into the tasting rotation. One thing to consider here, is that this is an international NG, so recommendations for wines, whether to pair with food, or of a type to hit a price-point, will often yield suggestions that are just not available to the OP, because of location and distribution. That's one of the great things about wine, it is available everywhere, just not all of it available everywhere. This is one good reason for people to post their location, when asking for recommendations. Now, I know that you were just interested in what everyone was drinking as a "every day" wine, but did you see the spread in people's choices - try and find some of those (probably great wines, especially for the $) in Omaha, NE/US, especially at the Piggly-Wiggley. <G> Hunt |
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MikeD escreveu:
> > I'm curious what the other wine fanatics out there consider their "house > wines"--those red and/or white wines that you always keep on day, drink > with most meals, and feel is economical enough to stock by the half-case > or case. > > Anyone have any recommendations? > > Thanks, > > Mike > I think most Rioja Crianza (red) of good producers are fine as an every day wine. Recently I tasted a Vin de Pays d'Oc very interesting (Altera, from Schroder & Schyler), only US$ 16.00 (well, in Brazil we have VERY HIGH import taxes on beverages, so maybe it costs only US$ 10.00 elsewhere(. Another very "drinkable" wine is Alamos Cabernet Sauv from Catena, Argentina. Only U$ 13.50 (or about US$ 8.00). |
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MikeD escreveu:
> > I'm curious what the other wine fanatics out there consider their "house > wines"--those red and/or white wines that you always keep on day, drink > with most meals, and feel is economical enough to stock by the half-case > or case. > > Anyone have any recommendations? > > Thanks, > > Mike > I think most Rioja Crianza (red) of good producers are fine as an every day wine. Recently I tasted a Vin de Pays d'Oc very interesting (Altera, from Schroder & Schyler), only US$ 16.00 (well, in Brazil we have VERY HIGH import taxes on beverages, so maybe it costs only US$ 10.00 elsewhere(. Another very "drinkable" wine is Alamos Cabernet Sauv from Catena, Argentina. Only U$ 13.50 (or about US$ 8.00). |
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Hunt:
I knew I'd get an international flavored response. My question wasn't geared so much towards running out and trying to find those wines as it was to get a feel for what people in the NG prefer. I see a lot of responses listing French wines, so I guess I better get to work trying a few. I've had a few non-varietal French reds (Cotes du Rhone, Beaujolais) but I'm pretty far behind the rest of you, so I better get moving. I just hope my liver holds out! <grin> http://www.webwinerack.com - Wine, Wine Reviews, and Wine Information Hunt wrote: > In article >, mike@webwinerack. > com says... > >> >>I'm curious what the other wine fanatics out there consider their "house >>wines"--those red and/or white wines that you always keep on day, drink >>with most meals, and feel is economical enough to stock by the half-case >>or case. >> >>Anyone have any recommendations? >> >>Thanks, >> >>Mike >> >>-- >>http://www.webwinerack.com - Wine, Wine Reviews, and Wine Information > > > Well MikeD, did you get some worthwhile wines in this thread. As I suggested, > also see the previous thread for several lists from other posters. I'll be > checking the Web site, to see if any of these made it into the tasting > rotation. One thing to consider here, is that this is an international NG, so > recommendations for wines, whether to pair with food, or of a type to hit a > price-point, will often yield suggestions that are just not available to the > OP, because of location and distribution. That's one of the great things about > wine, it is available everywhere, just not all of it available everywhere. > > This is one good reason for people to post their location, when asking for > recommendations. Now, I know that you were just interested in what everyone > was drinking as a "every day" wine, but did you see the spread in people's > choices - try and find some of those (probably great wines, especially for the > $) in Omaha, NE/US, especially at the Piggly-Wiggley. <G> > > Hunt > |
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Hunt:
I knew I'd get an international flavored response. My question wasn't geared so much towards running out and trying to find those wines as it was to get a feel for what people in the NG prefer. I see a lot of responses listing French wines, so I guess I better get to work trying a few. I've had a few non-varietal French reds (Cotes du Rhone, Beaujolais) but I'm pretty far behind the rest of you, so I better get moving. I just hope my liver holds out! <grin> http://www.webwinerack.com - Wine, Wine Reviews, and Wine Information Hunt wrote: > In article >, mike@webwinerack. > com says... > >> >>I'm curious what the other wine fanatics out there consider their "house >>wines"--those red and/or white wines that you always keep on day, drink >>with most meals, and feel is economical enough to stock by the half-case >>or case. >> >>Anyone have any recommendations? >> >>Thanks, >> >>Mike >> >>-- >>http://www.webwinerack.com - Wine, Wine Reviews, and Wine Information > > > Well MikeD, did you get some worthwhile wines in this thread. As I suggested, > also see the previous thread for several lists from other posters. I'll be > checking the Web site, to see if any of these made it into the tasting > rotation. One thing to consider here, is that this is an international NG, so > recommendations for wines, whether to pair with food, or of a type to hit a > price-point, will often yield suggestions that are just not available to the > OP, because of location and distribution. That's one of the great things about > wine, it is available everywhere, just not all of it available everywhere. > > This is one good reason for people to post their location, when asking for > recommendations. Now, I know that you were just interested in what everyone > was drinking as a "every day" wine, but did you see the spread in people's > choices - try and find some of those (probably great wines, especially for the > $) in Omaha, NE/US, especially at the Piggly-Wiggley. <G> > > Hunt > |
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"MikeD" > wrote in message .. . > Hunt: > > I knew I'd get an international flavored response. My question wasn't > geared so much towards running out and trying to find those wines as it > was to get a feel for what people in the NG prefer. > > I see a lot of responses listing French wines, so I guess I better get to > work trying a few. >> >> This is one good reason for people to post their location, when asking >> for recommendations. Now, I know that you were just interested in what >> everyone was drinking as a "every day" wine, but did you see the spread >> in people's choices - try and find some of those (probably great wines, >> especially for the $) in Omaha, NE/US, especially at the Piggly-Wiggley. >> <G> >> >> Hunt >> Good point about the location often semi-dictating the selection. I live in Seattle, where I can fairly easily barrel taste the Walla Walla and Yakima Valley wines two/three times a year, a definite advantage when buying less expensive stuff by the case. Right now I use Hogue Fume Blanc 2004, a DiStefano rose got on case sale (shared with a friend who has a discount), Animale Syrah 2002 (pre-sale, as my longtime friend lives two doors down from the winemaker), and a JM Cellars Cab/Merlot blend. |
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In article >,
says... > >Hunt: > >I knew I'd get an international flavored response. My question wasn't >geared so much towards running out and trying to find those wines as it >was to get a feel for what people in the NG prefer. > >I see a lot of responses listing French wines, so I guess I better get >to work trying a few. I've had a few non-varietal French reds (Cotes du >Rhone, Beaujolais) but I'm pretty far behind the rest of you, so I >better get moving. I just hope my liver holds out! <grin> > >http://www.webwinerack.com - Wine, Wine Reviews, and Wine Information There are some great value FR wines in fairly wide distribution in the US. If you can score some Morgon Beaujolais, it doesn't get much better (from that appellation) than those. They, like most designated BJs hold up to a few years of cellaring. The Loire Valley also sees wide distribution in US and offers some very interesting wines. Good drinking, and to your liver (health)! Hunt |
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Timothy Hartley wrote in :
> The Mogon we usually buy is from Roland Petit at Domaine de > Montplain though we have also had other good Beaujolais from > both of the Caves Cooperatives at Fleurie and Chiroubles and > also from M. Pein at the Domaine de Rochebonne at Theizé in > Southern Beuajolais. I agree with the recommendation of the cave de Fleurie. I had some Fleuries not too long ago that were very nice (even from the not very highly estimated 2001 vintage). > Whilst on the subject several of the Maconnais cooperatives also > provide good everyday drinking at a fair price — Lugny and > Vinzelles spring to mind as does the Cave at Buxy for Montagny > and cheap red Pinots. From the Cave in Buxy I tried two wines: The basic Montagny from '02 that was fairly nice - clean and crisp Chardonnay but buying that here in Austria is not really attractive, you get a lot of local wines similar in style with better quality for less money. The second was a Premier Cru Montagny from '98, tasted in 2004. I remeber that it was really satisfying, a nice maturing white Burgundy. May be I'll by around Buxy this summer - I'm sure I'll try to taste the stuff from "La Buxynoise". > Cheers, > > Tim Hartley Regards, Robert |
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:03:43 +0100, Timothy Hartley .=
uk> said: ] In message > ] Emery Davis > wrote: ]=20 ] > On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:49:55 +0100, Timothy Hartley <tNogSPAMh@eurobell= ..co.uk> said: ] >=20 ] > ] I do find it easier to buy drinkable reds as a house wine than drink= able ] > ] whites. Our long standing red is a Morgon bought at the vineyard for = about ] > ] =A33.60. Amongst the whites we drink regularly are a (Sauvignon de)= St. Bris ] > ] and a C=F4tes d_Auxerre Chardonnay bought, again at the vineyard, for= about ] > ] the same price. The truth is that ther is a lot of decent wine in Fra= nce=20 ] > ] for about that money if you can be bothered (or have the time for the= fun) ] > ] to look for it. ] > ]=20 ] >=20 ] > Care to share more details, Tim? ]=20 ] The St.Bris (and the C=F4tes d_Auxerre Chardonnay) is from Defrance altho= ugh ] those who like a greener more upfront style might like to try Goisot.=20 ]=20 The very same! We've been a client of Sorin (de France or Defrance?) for many years, always been excellent value. I wrote last year about finding 6 forgotten bottles of '95, they were actua= lly pretty good! ] The Mogon we usually buy is from Roland Petit at Domaine de Montplain tho= ugh ] we have also had other good Beaujolais from both of the Caves Cooperatives ] at Fleurie and Chiroubles and also from M. Pein at the Domaine de Rochebo= nne ] at Theiz=E9 in Southern Beuajolais. Whilst the latter is obviously not C= ru ] Beujolias it provides very decent drinking at a very fair price - about ] =A32.80 a bottle when I last bought some. In fact I shall hunt out a bot= tle ] for supper, this having whetted my appetite or thirst. ]=20 Well done. I'll keep my eyes open, actually may be in the area in the not too distant future. One of our favorites is Jacques Trichard, both Morgon and Regnie, as well as a very decent villages level. ] Whilst on the subject several of the Maconnais cooperatives also provide= =20 ] good everyday drinking at a fair price _ Lugny and Vinzelles spring to mi= nd ] as does the Cave at Buxy for Montagny and cheap red Pinots. ]=20 Noted, thanks for that. cheers, -E --=20 Emery Davis You can reply to by removing the well known companies |
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"MikeD" > wrote in message . .. > > I'm curious what the other wine fanatics out there consider their "house > wines"--those red and/or white wines that you always keep on day, drink > with most meals, and feel is economical enough to stock by the half-case > or case. > > Anyone have any recommendations? > > Thanks, > > Mike > Right now: Red: 2002 Cline "5 Reds". White: 2004 Kim Crawford SB Dean |
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My house white and red are Californian! Geyser Peak sauvignon blanc and
Sebastiani Sonoma County merlot, $12 and $14 respectively. Sometimes I'll swap on the white and go with the Los Vascos (Chile) current chardonnay (very light and crispy, non-oaked). It's about $8. |
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Thanks to everyone for your replies and opinions. I'm still searching for the reds and whites to stock as "house wines", and I'm definitely going to seek out some of the bottles you've recommended. This does, however, lead me to another dilemma: a better tasting methodology. Up to this point I've purchased several random bottles of wines that interested me, uncorking another as soon as I could finish the first bottle (or pour it down the drain if it wasn't worth finishing). I realize the proper method of tasting is to compare three or more bottles at the same time, and up to this point I was just getting my feet wet. I'm now going to begin tasting two bottles of like wines (varietal, appellation, or winery) at a time (I can't justify opening three bottles at a time as I can't finish that much wine in a week or so, and I have no one to share it with--being the only wine drinker in the house.) Does anyone have any additional advice or experience in holding personal tastings of this nature? Is there a better way to handle this for someone who is trying to taste a broad range of wines? -Mike http://www.webwinerack.com - Wine, Wine Reviews, and Wine Information |
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In article >, mike@webwinerack.
com says... > > >Thanks to everyone for your replies and opinions. > >I'm still searching for the reds and whites to stock as "house wines", >and I'm definitely going to seek out some of the bottles you've >recommended. This does, however, lead me to another dilemma: a better >tasting methodology. > >Up to this point I've purchased several random bottles of wines that >interested me, uncorking another as soon as I could finish the first >bottle (or pour it down the drain if it wasn't worth finishing). > >I realize the proper method of tasting is to compare three or more >bottles at the same time, and up to this point I was just getting my >feet wet. I'm now going to begin tasting two bottles of like wines >(varietal, appellation, or winery) at a time (I can't justify opening >three bottles at a time as I can't finish that much wine in a week or >so, and I have no one to share it with--being the only wine drinker in >the house.) > >Does anyone have any additional advice or experience in holding personal >tastings of this nature? Is there a better way to handle this for >someone who is trying to taste a broad range of wines? > >-Mike >http://www.webwinerack.com - Wine, Wine Reviews, and Wine Information First thing that you need to do is connect with like-minded folk near-by. This could be at a restaurant, wine shop, whatever is allowed in your area of retailers, or it could be a group of friends, who are interested in wine. Next, convert someone else in your immediate family to wine! <G> Seminars in your area, or trade-tastings are a good bet. I'll use the Wine Spectator Grand Tastings as an example. For a fee, you can attend the seminars, and the tastings, which are, in fact, "grand" tastings. Don't recall where you are located, but they now do several, NYC, Chicago, Las Vegas, and maybe another. The "trade-tastings" are something that you will need to work to get admission, but talk sweetly to your retailer, as he/she might have extra tickets. Check out the ZAP Website, to see if they hold any of their events near you, or near where you frequently travel. Most are in CA, but I just got notice that they have added New Orleans, and I used to attend the show in Denver, and for the few years that it came to Phoenix. Lots of wine and, other than crowded, great. Zinfandels abound. Lastly, you might want to pick up Andrea Immers book, "Great Wine Made Simple," which is basically a host of wine-tasting exercises. Kevin Zarhley's "Windows on the World Wine Course" (?) is another good one - I don't have my copy handy, so do check out the title. I hate that my memory is going so quickly. These two books are like class texts for wine tasting, and will give you all sorts of pairing/contrasting ideas. With the quantity of wines opened, you will want to recruit some gullible buddies to help you out, or just do them two at a time. Most of all, have fun, Hunt |
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"MikeD" > wrote in message . .. > I realize the proper method of tasting is to compare three or more bottles > at the same time, and up to this point I was just getting my feet wet. > I'm now going to begin tasting two bottles of like wines (varietal, > appellation, or winery) at a time (I can't justify opening three bottles > at a time as I can't finish that much wine in a week or so, and I have no > one to share it with--being the only wine drinker in the house.) > > Does anyone have any additional advice or experience in holding personal > tastings of this nature? Is there a better way to handle this for someone > who is trying to taste a broad range of wines? Yes. You can taste several wines at once and keep the unconsumed portions for another time if you do this: Get yourself some small, glass screwcapped bottles and a funnel to fit them. Sounds like you're not much of a drinker, so look for some airline size 187 ml bottles. You'll want a dozen or so to begin with - possibly more. When you open a fresh bottle of wine, immediately fill 3 of those little bottles from it. Try to pour the wine into the small bottles without agitating/aerating it. Fill the 3 bottles right to the brim and cap them tightly. The contents of those 3 bottles will remain intact as the original bottle was for months - perhaps longer. Be sure to label the bottles or you'll forget what's in them. After filling 3 of those small bottles, you'll still have wine in the bottle you just opened. That's what you'll be tasting tonight. Repeat the above process with another bottle of wine or two. Then you'll have 2 or 3 (or more) wines to taste side-by-side tonight, and you will be able to either reproduce that tasting another night or select an entirely different lineup of wines from other bottles, portioned into aliquots in the same fashion. Tom S |
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Here in Ontario Canada, I continue to adhere to my resolution to BUY only
Ontario wines. Current "House" selections include; Cave Spring Cellars 2002 Gamay Reserve Cave Spring Cellars 2003 Chardonnay Reserve and/or CSC 2003 Riesling Reserve Interspersed with various and sundry Ontario selections as the occasion permits or demands, I am one happy camper. -- Regards Chuck So much wine; So little time! To reply, delete NOSPAM from return address "DPM" > wrote in message news:3I79e.21490$Xm3.20109@trndny01... > > "MikeD" > wrote in message > . .. > > > > I'm curious what the other wine fanatics out there consider their "house > > wines"--those red and/or white wines that you always keep on day, drink > > with most meals, and feel is economical enough to stock by the half-case > > or case. > > > > Anyone have any recommendations? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mike > > > > Right now: > > Red: 2002 Cline "5 Reds". > White: 2004 Kim Crawford SB > > Dean > > |
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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:23:34 -0400, "Chuck Reid"
> wrote: >Here in Ontario Canada, I continue to adhere to my resolution to BUY only >Ontario wines. Current "House" selections include; > >Cave Spring Cellars 2002 Gamay Reserve >Cave Spring Cellars 2003 Chardonnay Reserve and/or CSC 2003 Riesling Reserve Hey Chuck, you still have some of that good red stuff left hey?! I'm trying to be a good boy and drink ten others before I open on of my GR. Never know when Cave Springs will have their next GR to offer. All the best, Larry Southern Ontario |
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Here in Missouri I love to quaff Norton/Cynthiana.
Bethelham Valley 2000 (Augusta AVA) at $18 a bottle is as good as any Napa Valley Cab. to me. Other outstanding Norton producers I regularly drink are; Stone Hill (Herman AVA) $14 at Sam's Dolce Vitae (Augusta) $16 St. James (Ozark Mountain Region AVA) $16 Heinrichaus (Ozark again) $14 Hermanhoff (Herman) $19 Oh, and when in Missouri, stay away from the labruscan 'pancake syrup' :-P Mark E Sievert |
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> > I realize the proper method of tasting is to compare three or more > bottles at the same time, and up to this point I was just getting my > feet wet. I'm now going to begin tasting two bottles of like wines > (varietal, appellation, or winery) at a time (I can't justify opening > three bottles at a time as I can't finish that much wine in a week or > so, and I have no one to share it with--being the only wine drinker in > the house.) > > Does anyone have any additional advice or experience in holding personal > tastings of this nature? Is there a better way to handle this for > someone who is trying to taste a broad range of wines? > > -Mike > > http://www.webwinerack.com - Wine, Wine Reviews, and Wine Information Join or form a tasting group. I joined one ten years ago and we meet every Monday night. There are usually between 8-10 folks every Monday and we all bring a bottle of wine to share. There is no set varietal format or price level but for the most part the wines are usually under $20.00. We taste them blind and everyone brings a small nosh. The wines are tasted in a single blind format and there is no scoring or judging other than a good natured competition to guess which wines are which. We limit this to red wines but the host is responsible for supplying the starter(s) which are always white, rose, or sparklers, and are not tasted blind. Not only do you get to taste a lot of different wines but you make some good friends in the process. |
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I went wine tasting at some of the local wineries in Missouri once. I even thought the wines might be good when I discovered most winemakers had been educated at UC Davis. Then I tasted them. YUCK! Most of them were way too sweet! When I asked about this, they said that sweet is what their demographic wants. Even the wines that were not sweet were mediocre at best. I am glad to have had the experience, but I'll not be buying the fine wines of Missouri any time soon. Dimitri |
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I went wine tasting at some of the local wineries in Missouri once. I even thought the wines might be good when I discovered most winemakers had been educated at UC Davis. Then I tasted them. YUCK! Most of them were way too sweet! When I asked about this, they said that sweet is what their demographic wants. Even the wines that were not sweet were mediocre at best. I am glad to have had the experience, but I'll not be buying the fine wines of Missouri any time soon. Dimitri |
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Dear D. Gerasimatos,
What year was your visit? I think at last count Missouri has about 40 producers and unfortunately some of the flashiest venues (Summit Lake, Crown Valley) are some of the producers. Were you able to try some of the nortons I listed previously? If so, I would love to hear appraisal. Best regards, Mark e Sievert |
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Woops, that should have read (Summit Lake, Crown Valley) are some of
the worst producers. |
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In article .com>,
M. E. Sievert > wrote: > >What year was your visit? I think at last count Missouri has about 40 >producers and unfortunately some of the flashiest venues (Summit Lake, >Crown Valley) are some of the producers. My visit was in 2004. I bought wine both at wineries and at wine shops in Saint Louis where they seemed obligated to carry local wines. >Were you able to try some of the nortons I listed previously? If so, I >would love to hear appraisal. I don't have my notes handy, so I am not sure. I do know that I didn't like anything I had. A few wines were tolerable. The same has been true of my experience with wine from Virginia. Dimitri |
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In article .com>,
M. E. Sievert > wrote: > >Woops, that should have read (Summit Lake, Crown Valley) are some of >the worst producers. I found some notes. I went to St. James (which you mentioned) and Meramec. I also bought wine from some other wineries at the wine shop, but I am not sure what I had as it was not memorable. Dimitri |
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In article .com>,
M. E. Sievert > wrote: > >Woops, that should have read (Summit Lake, Crown Valley) are some of >the worst producers. I found some notes. I went to St. James (which you mentioned) and Meramec. I also bought wine from some other wineries at the wine shop, but I am not sure what I had as it was not memorable. Dimitri |
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I am a export gent in france and I am so happy to read your mail.
the french did a lot of improvement regarding every aspect of their production. I love the beaujolais a lot and i thinks there's a lot of tremendous languedoc. I also work with very good cotes du rhone at a very reasonable price. jls "Emery Davis" > a écrit dans le message de . .. On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:03:43 +0100, Timothy Hartley > said: ] In message > ] Emery Davis > wrote: ] ] > On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:49:55 +0100, Timothy Hartley > said: ] > ] > ] I do find it easier to buy drinkable reds as a house wine than drinkable ] > ] whites. Our long standing red is a Morgon bought at the vineyard for about ] > ] £3.60. Amongst the whites we drink regularly are a (Sauvignon de) St. Bris ] > ] and a Côtes d_Auxerre Chardonnay bought, again at the vineyard, for about ] > ] the same price. The truth is that ther is a lot of decent wine in France ] > ] for about that money if you can be bothered (or have the time for the fun) ] > ] to look for it. ] > ] ] > ] > Care to share more details, Tim? ] ] The St.Bris (and the Côtes d_Auxerre Chardonnay) is from Defrance although ] those who like a greener more upfront style might like to try Goisot. ] The very same! We've been a client of Sorin (de France or Defrance?) for many years, always been excellent value. I wrote last year about finding 6 forgotten bottles of '95, they were actually pretty good! ] The Mogon we usually buy is from Roland Petit at Domaine de Montplain though ] we have also had other good Beaujolais from both of the Caves Cooperatives ] at Fleurie and Chiroubles and also from M. Pein at the Domaine de Rochebonne ] at Theizé in Southern Beuajolais. Whilst the latter is obviously not Cru ] Beujolias it provides very decent drinking at a very fair price - about ] £2.80 a bottle when I last bought some. In fact I shall hunt out a bottle ] for supper, this having whetted my appetite or thirst. ] Well done. I'll keep my eyes open, actually may be in the area in the not too distant future. One of our favorites is Jacques Trichard, both Morgon and Regnie, as well as a very decent villages level. ] Whilst on the subject several of the Maconnais cooperatives also provide ] good everyday drinking at a fair price _ Lugny and Vinzelles spring to mind ] as does the Cave at Buxy for Montagny and cheap red Pinots. ] Noted, thanks for that. cheers, -E -- Emery Davis You can reply to by removing the well known companies |
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Dimitri,
I am in St. James several time a year. Different from most of the German pedigreed wineries in Missouri, St. James, both the town and winery were settled by 19th century Genovese Italians escaping malaria in Arkansas. I can't make this up :-) With many local vineyards, some VERY old, St. James Winery makes a norton that, at least to me, drinks well with pasta and mid-western BBQ. Meramec Winery is a rather new venture set up just down the block from St.J. so as to catch some of it's traffic. The best thing I can say for it is it adds nothing to the local cultural flavor. I can't even say if they produce their own wine there :-/ Best regards, Mark |
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In article .com>,
M. E. Sievert > wrote: > >I am in St. James several time a year. Different from most of the >German pedigreed wineries in Missouri, St. James, both the town and >winery were settled by 19th century Genovese Italians escaping malaria >in Arkansas. I can't make this up :-) >With many local vineyards, some VERY old, St. James Winery makes a >norton that, at least to me, drinks well with pasta and mid-western >BBQ. I have to admit that I did not have this wine with food. Perhaps that's my mistake. However, you must admit that they have a very extensive lineup and most of it is bad. Dimitri |
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