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TN: A bad Primitivo from Amador
I've had some kind of bug/virus for 2 weeks, and with the exception of
maybe 1 oz of a '55 Spanna haven't had wine the whole time. But last night Betsy was making pheasant in a red wine marinade, and I thought "I HAVE to have wine with this, besides it can't make me feel worse." The recipe from d'Artagnan cookbook used a half-bottle of zinfandel, so I had told her Tues night to use the bottle her mom brought last week as a gift, the 2002 Fiddle Farm Primitivo (Amador County). Her mom (a cellist) bought it because of the violin on label- I think she knows the winemaker, who is apparently a bass player. I really wish he had stuck to music. Out of fairness, I should point out: 1) The bottle was opened for marinade (and just recorked) the night before it was tasted 2) Who knows what the bug has done to my tastebuds. My rebuttals are 1) Lots of problems, but didn't taste especially oxidized 2) The pheasant, meatball & pearl pasta soup, and escarole all tasted fine. This wine was hot (15.8 % when I checked label), weedy, and acidic. Thin and alcoholic, with rather bitter cherry fruit (reminiscent of Robitussin=99 is my new frame of reference). Short on finish. This is NOT the way to ease back into wine. C- Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency |
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Hunt,
I was on an antibiotic last week, but nothing now. I've taken plain Robitussion (expectorant) for chest congestion, nothing else in last few days (I did use zinc/echineachea lozenges first couple days to see if I could ward off bug, but once it was set decided they were useless). I actually took a taste of open bottle of Falanghina in fridge - as expected, good but oxidized. And Betsy tried the Primitivo and said "wow, that's pretty awful, isn't it?" So don't think it was me. I'm not tarring all Amador Zins with same brush-I've had good ones (though all in a rather brash style). Thanks for kind words. I'm still smarting that Joe R. doesn't find my plumpness (it's definitely there, I tried the Special K pinch) pleasing! (Just kidding Joe!). |
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On 8 Apr 2005 05:55:11 -0700, "DaleW" > wrote:
>Hunt, >I was on an antibiotic last week, but nothing now. I've taken plain >Robitussion (expectorant) for chest congestion, nothing else in last >few days (I did use zinc/echineachea lozenges first couple days to >see if I could ward off bug, but once it was set decided they were >useless). I actually took a taste of open bottle of Falanghina in >fridge - as expected, good but oxidized. And Betsy tried the Primitivo >and said "wow, that's pretty awful, isn't it?" So don't think it was >me. I'm not tarring all Amador Zins with same brush-I've had good ones >(though all in a rather brash style). I've always found Amador County Zins to be excellent, although one clue here is that the Primitivo labeling might be a mask for some varietal variation--and I'd hate to get back into the geneology of the grapes discussion again. As for the "all in a rather brash style"--I'd have to refer to the range of Renwood (between r-of-ren and varietal variation, I seem to be in an alliterative rut this AM). Their various Amador County zin offerings range from pedestrian to long-future sublime. I keep threatening to lay down a half-dozen of their Grandpere for a decade just to see what develops, but the IRS is putting that ambition on hold this month.... Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" www.thunderchief.org www.thundertales.blogspot.com |
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On 8 Apr 2005 05:55:11 -0700, "DaleW" > wrote:
>Hunt, >I was on an antibiotic last week, but nothing now. I've taken plain >Robitussion (expectorant) for chest congestion, nothing else in last >few days (I did use zinc/echineachea lozenges first couple days to >see if I could ward off bug, but once it was set decided they were >useless). I actually took a taste of open bottle of Falanghina in >fridge - as expected, good but oxidized. And Betsy tried the Primitivo >and said "wow, that's pretty awful, isn't it?" So don't think it was >me. I'm not tarring all Amador Zins with same brush-I've had good ones >(though all in a rather brash style). I've always found Amador County Zins to be excellent, although one clue here is that the Primitivo labeling might be a mask for some varietal variation--and I'd hate to get back into the geneology of the grapes discussion again. As for the "all in a rather brash style"--I'd have to refer to the range of Renwood (between r-of-ren and varietal variation, I seem to be in an alliterative rut this AM). Their various Amador County zin offerings range from pedestrian to long-future sublime. I keep threatening to lay down a half-dozen of their Grandpere for a decade just to see what develops, but the IRS is putting that ambition on hold this month.... Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" www.thunderchief.org www.thundertales.blogspot.com |
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"As for the "all in a rather brash style"--I'd have to refer to the
range of Renwood . Their various Amador County zin offerings range from pedestrian to long-future sublime. I keep threatening to lay down a half-dozen of their Grandpere for a decade" Ed, all I can say is that the Renwoods I've tasted (and generally quite liked) have all been in a style I'd call brash. More Turley than Nalle if you know what I mean. My impression is that Amador is quite hot, and tends to make rather high-alcohol high tannin Zins. That's not a critcism, just an observation. I admit it's made on limited evidence though. I liked the Grandpere, and think it's likely to cellar well. But subtle it's not. |
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"As for the "all in a rather brash style"--I'd have to refer to the
range of Renwood . Their various Amador County zin offerings range from pedestrian to long-future sublime. I keep threatening to lay down a half-dozen of their Grandpere for a decade" Ed, all I can say is that the Renwoods I've tasted (and generally quite liked) have all been in a style I'd call brash. More Turley than Nalle if you know what I mean. My impression is that Amador is quite hot, and tends to make rather high-alcohol high tannin Zins. That's not a critcism, just an observation. I admit it's made on limited evidence though. I liked the Grandpere, and think it's likely to cellar well. But subtle it's not. |
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On 8 Apr 2005 13:26:59 -0700, "DaleW" > wrote:
>"As for the "all in a rather brash style"--I'd have to refer to the >range of Renwood . Their various Amador County zin >offerings range from pedestrian to long-future sublime. I keep >threatening to lay down a half-dozen of their Grandpere for a decade" > >Ed, all I can say is that the Renwoods I've tasted (and generally quite >liked) have all been in a style I'd call brash. More Turley than Nalle >if you know what I mean. My impression is that Amador is quite hot, and >tends to make rather high-alcohol high tannin Zins. That's not a >critcism, just an observation. I admit it's made on limited evidence >though. >I liked the Grandpere, and think it's likely to cellar well. But subtle >it's not. Some of the entry level Renwoods are a bit more subdued, but to torture the language a bit further I'd say not subtle--IOW, less flavor but also less nuance. That being admitted at the git-go, I'll agree that the high dollar Renwoods are indeed leaning toward the Turley (although high dollar Renwood doesn't get you in the door with Turley's offerings.) As for the Grandpere, the last one I tasted was a tannin pucker-mouth (sort of reminiscent of those Keystone "bitter-beer-face" commercials.) The Grandmere is the lovely product for the 2002 vintage. IMHO. Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" www.thunderchief.org www.thundertales.blogspot.com |
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"Ed Rasimus" > wrote in message
... > As for the Grandpere, the last one I tasted was a tannin pucker-mouth > (sort of reminiscent of those Keystone "bitter-beer-face" > commercials.) The Grandmere is the lovely product for the 2002 > vintage. IMHO. Thanks Ed, I'll keep an eye out for the Grandmere! |
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