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air pumps?
I am a wine newbie and was looking at a pump that is supposed to make an
open bottle of wine last a few days longer after pumping some air out. Is using a pump effective for this? Thanks. |
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It does work, but not as well as the bottles of nitrogen spray that you
use to exclude oxygen from the bottle. |
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I'm going to give the Pek Supremo system a try. You might take a look
at it. I will post my thoughts on in after I've used it for a while. I'm currently using the Metrokane hand pump ( http://www.metrokane.com/site_files/...er_vacuum.aspx ) which I think is the best of the pumps. It creates a pretty impressive vacuum in the bottle. I drink mostly cabs and merlots, and they appear to last just fine for 3 days using this device. I hope this helps. Stephen |
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Mike wrote: > I am a wine newbie and was looking at a pump that is supposed to make an > open bottle of wine last a few days longer after pumping some air out. Is > using a pump effective for this? > > Thanks. I have one, and it seems to work fairly well. Better, though, is to have friends help you finish the bottles the same evening. |
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In article >, Mike > wrote:
>I am a wine newbie and was looking at a pump that is supposed to make an >open bottle of wine last a few days longer after pumping some air out. Is >using a pump effective for this? > >Thanks. > > Sounds like Vac-U-Wine. My favorite, and does quite well is tests I have seen. -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Brian Gordon <-- brian.gordon at cox dot net | + Bass: "Spirit of Phoenix" SPEBSQSA Chorus (and Gotcha! dad) + -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- |
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In article >,
xenophobe > wrote: > [...] >One of the 13 informal fallacies of elementary logic is "proving the general >by the specific". The technology of nitrogen or argon displacement works >indubitably. Partial vacuum systems do not. > [...] I've seen two newspaper reports (SJ and Phoenix) on competiting storage methods, and both of them found VacUVine better that any of the gas systems. YMMV. -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Brian Gordon <-- brian.gordon at cox dot net | + Bass: "Spirit of Phoenix" SPEBSQSA Chorus (and Gotcha! dad) + -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- |
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In article >,
says... > >Actually, the previous poster is limited in his experience and knowledge. >Costs that are "far too much" is a very subjective statement. > >Winekeeper and Enomatic, e.g., produce quality equipment that will reliably >maintain the integrity of partial bottles for up to 3 weeks. > >One of the 13 informal fallacies of elementary logic is "proving the general >by the specific". The technology of nitrogen or argon displacement works >indubitably. Partial vacuum systems do not. > >Whether one can afford a hobby or not has nothing to do with the laws of >physics. > > > > >"Hunt" > wrote in message ... >> In article .com>, >> says... >>> >>>It does work, but not as well as the bottles of nitrogen spray that you >>>use to exclude oxygen from the bottle. >> >> One really nice aspect of the VacUvin-type device, however, is that you >> can >> travel with it. On the road, a pump and a few stoppers will go quite a >> ways >> toward keeping the wine "better" for a few days. I use these all of the >> time, >> and, coupled with refrigerator storage of opened bottles of both white and >> red, I get about 3-5 days of useful life from a bottle. I will not claim >> that >> the bottles (actually the wine IN those bottles) is as good as when first >> opened, but it will extend the life some. While I've got several nitrogen >> purge units, I have basically retired them, even the big unit, that cost >> me >> far too much - but it does look impressive with the hoses, the cylinders, >> etc. >> >> Hunt I have not tried the two systems that you mention, but I have opened a bottle, from the same case, after pouring from a 3-4 day old VacUvin'ed, refrigerated bottle and the differences are minimal. While I would not argue the vacuum method v inert gas replacement for long-term storage (as I have never done a controlled experiment between the two), for short-term, the vacuum method does the job. As to the relative expense of the two types of systems, I have them both, and, as stated, do not bother with nitrogen any longer. This may be because wine seldom sits around my house, but when it does, the vacuum/ refrigeration method does a fine job. Hunt |
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"Brian Gordon" in ...
> > I've seen two newspaper reports (SJ and Phoenix) on > competiting storage methods, and both of them found > VacUVine better that any of the gas systems. > YMMV. Whatever is this, Brian? External data, basis for your assertions? Aren't postings about technical devices for wine supposed to have only unsupported conclusions, proof-by-conviction? Surely the more firmly it's believed by its writer, the truer it must be. Get with the program! ;-) |
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