Riesling with everything?
When friends ask for food pairings, I always recommend
Riesling, the universal grape. But I'm not sure - are there any specific dishes where this advice fails? -- Rich |
Riesling with everything?
On 8/25/2020 11:49 AM, RichD wrote:
> When friends ask for food pairings, I always recommend > Riesling, the universal grape. > > But I'm not sure - are there any specific dishes where > this advice fails? We all have different preferences, but to me riesling is not a universal grape; it doesn't go with everything. For example, I'd rather have no wine with steak, roast beef, lamb chops, or hamburgers than have Riesling with it. -- Ken |
Riesling with everything?
On 8/25/20 2:49 PM, RichD wrote:
> When friends ask for food pairings, I always recommend > Riesling, the universal grape. > > But I'm not sure - are there any specific dishes where > this advice fails? Riesling is a very versatile white grape, but it's not an ideal choice with most red meats. I think that tomato-based dishes also can overwhelm it. With Riesling, it also depends on the sweetness level. "Dessert wine"-type Rieslings (Auslese and up) are really not suited for much food beyond certain cheeses and maybe nuts (ironically, they would be terrible with most desserts). Just my $0.02, Mark Lipton |
Riesling with everything?
On 8/25/2020 4:26 PM, Mark Lipton wrote:
> On 8/25/20 2:49 PM, RichD wrote: >> When friends ask for food pairings, I always recommend >> Riesling, the universal grape. >> >> But I'm not sure - are there any specific dishes where >> this advice fails? > > Riesling is a very versatile white grape, but it's not an ideal choice > with most red meats. I think that tomato-based dishes also can > overwhelm it. With Riesling, it also depends on the sweetness level. > "Dessert wine"-type Rieslings (Auslese and up) are really not suited for > much food beyond certain cheeses and maybe nuts (ironically, they would > be terrible with most desserts). Yes, but as I understand it, the term "dessert wine" does not mean a wine to be served with dessert. It mean a wine to be *used* as a dessert. -- Ken |
Riesling with everything?
On 8/25/20 7:42 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
>> Riesling is a very versatile white grape, but it's not an ideal choice >> with most red meats.Â* I think that tomato-based dishes also can >> overwhelm it.Â* With Riesling, it also depends on the sweetness level. >> "Dessert wine"-type Rieslings (Auslese and up) are really not suited for >> much food beyond certain cheeses and maybe nuts (ironically, they would >> be terrible with most desserts). > > > Yes, but as I understand it, the term "dessert wine" does not mean a > wine to be served with dessert. It mean a wine to be *used* as a dessert. > > Quite so, Ken, but that's not how a lot of people think of them, I find. Mark Lipton |
Riesling with everything?
On 8/25/2020 9:16 PM, Mark Lipton wrote:
> On 8/25/20 7:42 PM, Ken Blake wrote: > >>> Riesling is a very versatile white grape, but it's not an ideal choice >>> with most red meats.Â* I think that tomato-based dishes also can >>> overwhelm it.Â* With Riesling, it also depends on the sweetness level. >>> "Dessert wine"-type Rieslings (Auslese and up) are really not suited for >>> much food beyond certain cheeses and maybe nuts (ironically, they would >>> be terrible with most desserts). >> >> >> Yes, but as I understand it, the term "dessert wine" does not mean a >> wine to be served with dessert. It mean a wine to be *used* as a dessert. >> >> > > Quite so, Ken, but that's not how a lot of people think of them, I find. Yes, I've found the same thing. -- Ken |
Riesling with everything?
On 2020-08-25 5:26 p.m., Mark Lipton wrote:
> On 8/25/20 2:49 PM, RichD wrote: >> When friends ask for food pairings, I always recommend >> Riesling, the universal grape. >> >> But I'm not sure - are there any specific dishes where >> this advice fails? > > Riesling is a very versatile white grape, but it's not an ideal choice > with most red meats. I think that tomato-based dishes also can > overwhelm it. With Riesling, it also depends on the sweetness level. > "Dessert wine"-type Rieslings (Auslese and up) are really not suited for > much food beyond certain cheeses and maybe nuts (ironically, they would > be terrible with most desserts). > > Just my $0.02, > Mark Lipton > A waiter in a restaurant in Bordeaux insisted that I have a glass of Sauternes with my foie gras. I know it's a classic pairing but it didn't enhance the dish on that occasion. |
Riesling with everything?
On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, Mark Lipton wrote:
> On 8/25/20 2:49 PM, RichD wrote: > > When friends ask for food pairings, I always recommend > > Riesling, the universal grape. > > > > But I'm not sure - are there any specific dishes where > > this advice fails? > Riesling is a very versatile white grape, but it's not an ideal choice > with most red meats. I think that tomato-based dishes also can > overwhelm it. With Riesling, it also depends on the sweetness level. > "Dessert wine"-type Rieslings (Auslese and up) are really not suited for > much food beyond certain cheeses and maybe nuts (ironically, they would > be terrible with most desserts). > > Just my $0.02, > Mark Lipton i'm with Mark and Ken, not a fan with red meat (well, maybe duck or goose if you consider red meat) or with tomato dishes (especially cooked, but fresh as well). Not a real clash but not my instinct with delicate white fish either. But lots of chicken, pork, rabbit, oily fish recipes it's my go-to (especially if Asian) |
Riesling with everything?
On 2020-08-26 12:11 p.m., wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, Mark Lipton wrote: >> On 8/25/20 2:49 PM, RichD wrote: >>> When friends ask for food pairings, I always recommend >>> Riesling, the universal grape. >>> >>> But I'm not sure - are there any specific dishes where >>> this advice fails? >> Riesling is a very versatile white grape, but it's not an ideal choice >> with most red meats. I think that tomato-based dishes also can >> overwhelm it. With Riesling, it also depends on the sweetness level. >> "Dessert wine"-type Rieslings (Auslese and up) are really not suited for >> much food beyond certain cheeses and maybe nuts (ironically, they would >> be terrible with most desserts). >> >> Just my $0.02, >> Mark Lipton > i'm with Mark and Ken, not a fan with red meat (well, maybe duck or goose if you consider red meat) or with tomato dishes (especially cooked, but fresh as well). Not a real clash but not my instinct with delicate white fish either. But lots of chicken, pork, rabbit, oily fish recipes it's my go-to (especially if Asian) > I don't waste even inexpensive wine on curries. I've found that cider (hard in the US) is the better accompaniment. Graham |
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