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DaleW 13-06-2016 05:20 PM

TN: Rieslings, Pinots, Gamay, GV, and more
 
Wineless Monday (kinchee rice and bbq tofu), Tuesday was grilled tuna steak, sauteed arugula, rice, and mizuna salad, with the 2015 Dauny Sancerre rose. Red cherries, a little pit fruit note, on bigger side, could use more acid - this is heavier style of rose. Ill pass on more of these. B-/C+

With skirt steak, pappardelle with a squash blossom sauce, and caprese, the 2013 Poggio Scalette Chianti Classico. Plump, round red fruits, a hint of leather, needs some zing. B-

With pork chops, greens (mustard and kohlrabi), rice, and salad, the 2013 Nikolaihof €śIm Weingebirge€ť Gruner Veltliner. Federspiel . Stood up to the food well, apple and nectarine accented with white pepper and lemon zest. Good acids, fresh, I like. B+


Grilled branzino with a lemongrass/coconutmilk/mint sauce, kale salad, and brown rice
The 2008 R. Haart Piesporter Gräfenberg Kabinett was lean, nervy, and long . I had actually thought I had opened the Goldtropchen and thought vintage had trumped vineyard with the lack of tropical notes, but after I wrote my notes realized I had wrong wine. Green apple, lime, a little petrol. B+/A-

Saturday we picked up Muneko and John in the city and headed down to Le Coq Rico. The bistro of birds lived up to its hype- we enjoyed the offal platter (hearts on skewers with apple, curry croquettes, liver crostini, etc), asparagus with a crusted egg, Brune Landais chicken, squasb, foie gras, and more. They were nice and professional re wine (corkage was $37, a strange figure, meant to look and see if that was possibly lowest priced bottle on their list)

1990 Trimbach €śCuvee Frederic Emile€ť Riesling VT
I debated bringing the "89 or the "90, went with the latter.. This shows a little sweeter than the "89 does, though still more a halbtrccken style. Rich tropical fruit, orange blossom, just a little petrol. Stony mineral finish. Very good, A-

1998 Domaine des Perdrix Echezeaux
Red fruits, oak, smoke. Everyone else loved, I was bothered by the oak. Towards end it gets a little more integrated, with oak taking on a little exotic sandalwood character. But I though a tad disappointing for 18 year old Grand Cru. B-
(I did have fun telling everyone it came from Gregory Pecks cellar)

While others had the raspberry millefeuille, I had a glass of the 2014 Bergerie Coteaux du Layon (well, part of glass, as a kind of little coupe glass filled to rim, I managed to spill down my shirt and pants). Honied, lush, could use a bit more acid. B/B-

Last night we walked over the hill (hound in tow) to spend the evening on some friends deck, welcoming their niece returning from a year teaching in Italy.

2015 Essenciel de Paradis Rose
Clean fresh light Provencal rose. B

I made grilled shrimp with the leftover lemongrass/cilantro.mint/chile sauce from Friday, intended wine was the 2011 JJ Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Kabinett, but neglected to open till shrimp were almost gone. Slight CO2 spritz, a little reduced at first, cleans up. Green apple and yellow plum, some herby notes. Young but good. B+

Dinner was grilled swordfish, a great slaw, and a grain/bean salad.

2011 Abbatucci Il Cavaliere Diplomate d'Empire
Herb, pine, and white fruits. Full-textured, with a kind of Rhonish oily edge. Big exotic white with good acids. B+

2009 Burgaud Morgon
Bigger, riper, denser kind of Beaujolais, lots of juicy fruit, I think blind I might have guessed Cali PN! But reasonably tasty. B/B-

2012 CVNE Cune Rioja
Clean, red fruit and vanilla, easy enough. B-

Fun night

Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C drinkable. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice.Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.




Mark Lipton[_1_] 16-06-2016 07:35 PM

TN: Rieslings, Pinots, Gamay, GV, and more
 
On 6/13/16 12:20 PM, DaleW wrote:
> Wineless Monday (kinchee rice and bbq tofu), Tuesday was grilled tuna
> steak, sauteed arugula, rice, and mizuna salad, with the 2015 Dauny
> Sancerre rose. Red cherries, a little pit fruit note, on bigger side,
> could use more acid - this is heavier style of rose. Ill pass on
> more of these. B-/C+


Have I mentioned recently that you and Betsy eat really well? ;-)
Bummer about the Sancerre Rosé. Never heard of the producer, tho.


> With pork chops, greens (mustard and kohlrabi), rice, and salad, the
> 2013 Nikolaihof €śIm Weingebirge€ť Gruner Veltliner. Federspiel . Stood
> up to the food well, apple and nectarine accented with white pepper
> and lemon zest. Good acids, fresh, I like. B+


Good to hear. I've got some of this, I think.


> I made grilled shrimp with the leftover
> lemongrass/cilantro.mint/chile sauce from Friday, intended wine was
> the 2011 JJ Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Kabinett, but neglected to open
> till shrimp were almost gone. Slight CO2 spritz, a little reduced at
> first, cleans up. Green apple and yellow plum, some herby notes.
> Young but good. B+


No trace of sulfur? I have a very difficult time with young PrĂĽm wines
because of the sulfur.


> Dinner was grilled swordfish, a great slaw, and a grain/bean salad.
>
> 2011 Abbatucci Il Cavaliere Diplomate d'Empire Herb, pine, and white
> fruits. Full-textured, with a kind of Rhonish oily edge. Big exotic
> white with good acids. B+


I've so far resisted the plunge with Corsican wines. Just a bit too
pricey for me.

>
> 2009 Burgaud Morgon Bigger, riper, denser kind of Beaujolais, lots of
> juicy fruit, I think blind I might have guessed Cali PN! But
> reasonably tasty. B/B-


The mark of '09. I'm keeping hands off in the hopes that they'll
eventually return to form.

Thanks for all the notes, Dale.

Mark Lipton

--
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DaleW 21-06-2016 02:03 PM

TN: Rieslings, Pinots, Gamay, GV, and more
 
On Thursday, June 16, 2016 at 2:35:27 PM UTC-4, Mark Lipton wrote:
> Bummer about the Sancerre Rosé. Never heard of the producer, tho.
>

Took a flyer because it was at Chambers, and friends have liked the whites.

> 2011 JJ Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Kabinett, but neglected to open
> > till shrimp were almost gone. Slight CO2 spritz, a little reduced at
> > first, cleans up. Green apple and yellow plum, some herby notes.
> > Young but good. B+

>
> No trace of sulfur? I have a very difficult time with young PrĂĽm wines
> because of the sulfur.
>
>

I think they've lighted up a bit in recent years, especially on Kabinett level. although still plenty of sulfur, which is where I assume the (light) reduction comes from . But I'm no chemist!

>
> I've so far resisted the plunge with Corsican wines. Just a bit too
> pricey for me.
>

Some are actually pretty cheap (Leccia for instance), The Abbattuci wines - especially the Cuvee Collection ones (fascinating story, family got cuttings of almost extinct indigenous varieties and saved them) are pricey, but very good. But Zachys had a sale where this wine and the red Ministre Imperial were $35 rather than normal $75-100, wish I'd bought more than I did.

Bi!! 24-06-2016 04:41 PM

TN: Rieslings, Pinots, Gamay, GV, and more
 
On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 12:20:06 PM UTC-4, DaleW wrote:
> Wineless Monday (kinchee rice and bbq tofu), Tuesday was grilled tuna steak, sauteed arugula, rice, and mizuna salad, with the 2015 Dauny Sancerre rose. Red cherries, a little pit fruit note, on bigger side, could use more acid - this is heavier style of rose. Ill pass on more of these. B-/C+
>
> With skirt steak, pappardelle with a squash blossom sauce, and caprese, the 2013 Poggio Scalette Chianti Classico. Plump, round red fruits, a hint of leather, needs some zing. B-
>
> With pork chops, greens (mustard and kohlrabi), rice, and salad, the 2013 Nikolaihof €śIm Weingebirge€ť Gruner Veltliner. Federspiel . Stood up to the food well, apple and nectarine accented with white pepper and lemon zest. Good acids, fresh, I like. B+
>
>
> Grilled branzino with a lemongrass/coconutmilk/mint sauce, kale salad, and brown rice
> The 2008 R. Haart Piesporter Gräfenberg Kabinett was lean, nervy, and long . I had actually thought I had opened the Goldtropchen and thought vintage had trumped vineyard with the lack of tropical notes, but after I wrote my notes realized I had wrong wine. Green apple, lime, a little petrol. B+/A-
>
> Saturday we picked up Muneko and John in the city and headed down to Le Coq Rico. The bistro of birds lived up to its hype- we enjoyed the offal platter (hearts on skewers with apple, curry croquettes, liver crostini, etc), asparagus with a crusted egg, Brune Landais chicken, squasb, foie gras, and more. They were nice and professional re wine (corkage was $37, a strange figure, meant to look and see if that was possibly lowest priced bottle on their list)
>
> 1990 Trimbach €śCuvee Frederic Emile€ť Riesling VT
> I debated bringing the "89 or the "90, went with the latter. This shows a little sweeter than the "89 does, though still more a halbtrccken style. Rich tropical fruit, orange blossom, just a little petrol. Stony mineral finish. Very good, A-
>
> 1998 Domaine des Perdrix Echezeaux
> Red fruits, oak, smoke. Everyone else loved, I was bothered by the oak. Towards end it gets a little more integrated, with oak taking on a little exotic sandalwood character. But I though a tad disappointing for 18 year old Grand Cru. B-
> (I did have fun telling everyone it came from Gregory Pecks cellar)
>
> While others had the raspberry millefeuille, I had a glass of the 2014 Bergerie Coteaux du Layon (well, part of glass, as a kind of little coupe glass filled to rim, I managed to spill down my shirt and pants). Honied, lush, could use a bit more acid. B/B-
>
> Last night we walked over the hill (hound in tow) to spend the evening on some friends deck, welcoming their niece returning from a year teaching in Italy.
>
> 2015 Essenciel de Paradis Rose
> Clean fresh light Provencal rose. B
>
> I made grilled shrimp with the leftover lemongrass/cilantro.mint/chile sauce from Friday, intended wine was the 2011 JJ Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Kabinett, but neglected to open till shrimp were almost gone. Slight CO2 spritz, a little reduced at first, cleans up. Green apple and yellow plum, some herby notes. Young but good. B+
>
> Dinner was grilled swordfish, a great slaw, and a grain/bean salad.
>
> 2011 Abbatucci Il Cavaliere Diplomate d'Empire
> Herb, pine, and white fruits. Full-textured, with a kind of Rhonish oily edge. Big exotic white with good acids. B+
>
> 2009 Burgaud Morgon
> Bigger, riper, denser kind of Beaujolais, lots of juicy fruit, I think blind I might have guessed Cali PN! But reasonably tasty. B/B-
>
> 2012 CVNE Cune Rioja
> Clean, red fruit and vanilla, easy enough. B-
>
> Fun night
>
> Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C drinkable. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice.Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.


I opened a 2005 Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Auslese this week and it had a tiny amount of spritz but not a lot of sulpher. Frankly it was delicious in all of the right ways and out of 15 wines it was the only one that was totally drained at the end of the night.


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