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TN: 1983 claret, plus Champagne and 66 Beychevelle
John hosted a 1983 claret tasting last night. Nice lineup, nice group (some old friends, some new), nice cheeses, and the best stew I ever tasted. One nice thing was the non-conformity of opinions, so much funner than total agreement. The notes below are mine, and definitely don’t reflect a group consensus. Welcoming wines NV Lanson “Extra Age” Brut Champagne I think I liked more than most- crisp green apple, but deeper than most NV, with good length. B+/B 2000 Lanson “Noble Cuvee” Brut Champagne Elegant, deep, and full, I think I need to drink more Lanson. A-/B+ on to the reds Flight #1 1983 Ch. Giscours Mark says that this is better than most bottles of this, though it’s not especially memorable. Some barnyard, dark fruit, anise. Medium length, midbodied. B- 1983 Ch. du Tertre Unsure of provenance on this, cork was a crumbly mess when I double-decanted just before heading north. Red berries, smoke, cedar, this would be nice with a bit more length. This bottle at least is at end of lifespan. B Flight #2 1983 Ch. la Lagune Fruit-filled, lusty, kirschy in a good way. Pleasant and holding fine. B/B+ 1983 Ch. Cantemerle I wrote floral, elegant, cigarbox, nice length. And it improved in the glass a lot after that. Contender for WOTN. A- a solo St Estephe 1983 Ch. Meyney Divisive wine. Dominated by barnyard, seemingly coarse, but I thought it improved in glass a lot. Not my favorite Meyney, but nice enough. A total dud for the brett-haters. B Flight #3 1983 Ch. Gruaud-Larose Another round of the Cordier funk, but the Gruaud is brawnier and stands up better. Lots of green herbal notes that don’t bother me. B+/A- 1983 Ch. Leoville-Poyferre Redder fruit, spice, earth, but a bit stolid. I liked a bottle in spring more. B Flight #4 1983 Ch. Belair OK, first bottle stunningly corked.2nd bottle provokes arguments- to me (not especially sensitive) clearly corked- not as bad as first, but wet cardboard there. Others thought “Belair funk.” John generously actually opens a 3rd bottle. OK, not corked. Not very good, but not corked. A little funky, a little volatile, a lot thin. C/C+ 1983 Ch. Certan-Giraud This more than makes up for the trio of Belairs. I’m not sure I’ve ever had a Certan-Giraud, and expectations were low. Whoa, baby. Lovely midbodied Pomerol, sweet fruit, earth, mushrooms, very good length. A-/B+ Flight #5 1983 Ch. La Fleur de *** Weird lactic meets ferric nose, develops volatility as it sits, strange charred notes, not good. C 1983 Ch. Latour a Pomerol Rustic, tea and plums, not really exciting but solid. B Flight #6 1983 Ch. l’Evangile Lovely, long, if not as lush as I remembered. Dark fruit and mocha, good balance. Some felt it started to fall apart with some time in glass, but I enjoyed till end (it had been double-decanted about 5 PM). A contender for WOTN for me. A- 1983 Ch. Lafleur Spirity/pruney nose, brutish, tannic as all hell. Better than the La Fleur de *** but clearly overextracted. B-/C+ Not to be satisfied with a mere 17 bottles opened, John served a blind red. Clearly a Bordeaux, fairly tightly wound, needs air. Lots of herbal notes, midbodied. I think of guessing Sociando, but pretty sure John doesn’t cellar that. He says he wishes he had given more air, but I enjoy the 1966 Ch.. Beychevelle B+ Well, certainly at this point what is needed is another bottle of Champagne.. The NV Bereche Brut Champagne is very very good, and I wished I didn’t have to spit, Very crisp, dry, flavorful. I’ll look to buy this B+/A- Great night, with loads of interesting wines, and loads of interesting opinions. Can’t wait to see View from the Cellar for John’s opinions. Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency. |
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TN: 1983 claret, plus Champagne and 66 Beychevelle
Nice notes. 1983 was a real value vintage compareed to the 1982 vintage but I always found the quality to be darn good. A bit less ripe than 1982 but still quite tasty.
On Friday, October 18, 2013 4:18:30 PM UTC-4, DaleW wrote: > John hosted a 1983 claret tasting last night. Nice lineup, nice group (some old friends, some new), nice cheeses, and the best stew I ever tasted. One nice thing was the non-conformity of opinions, so much funner than total agreement. The notes below are mine, and definitely don’t reflect a group consensus. > > > > Welcoming wines > > NV Lanson “Extra Age” Brut Champagne > > I think I liked more than most- crisp green apple, but deeper than most NV, with good length. B+/B > > > > 2000 Lanson “Noble Cuvee” Brut Champagne > > Elegant, deep, and full, I think I need to drink more Lanson. A-/B+ > > > > on to the reds > > Flight #1 > > 1983 Ch. Giscours > > Mark says that this is better than most bottles of this, though it’s not especially memorable. Some barnyard, dark fruit, anise. Medium length, midbodied. B- > > > > 1983 Ch. du Tertre > > Unsure of provenance on this, cork was a crumbly mess when I double-decanted just before heading north. Red berries, smoke, cedar, this would be nice with a bit more length. This bottle at least is at end of lifespan. B > > > > Flight #2 > > > > 1983 Ch. la Lagune > > Fruit-filled, lusty, kirschy in a good way. Pleasant and holding fine. B/B+ > > > > 1983 Ch. Cantemerle > > I wrote floral, elegant, cigarbox, nice length. And it improved in the glass a lot after that. > > Contender for WOTN. A- > > > > a solo St Estephe > > > > 1983 Ch. Meyney > > Divisive wine. Dominated by barnyard, seemingly coarse, but I thought it improved in glass a lot. Not my favorite Meyney, but nice enough. A total dud for the brett-haters. B > > > > Flight #3 > > 1983 Ch. Gruaud-Larose > > Another round of the Cordier funk, but the Gruaud is brawnier and stands up better. Lots of green herbal notes that don’t bother me. B+/A- > > > > 1983 Ch. Leoville-Poyferre > > Redder fruit, spice, earth, but a bit stolid. I liked a bottle in spring more. B > > > > Flight #4 > > > > 1983 Ch. Belair > > OK, first bottle stunningly corked.2nd bottle provokes arguments- to me (not especially sensitive) clearly corked- not as bad as first, but wet cardboard there. Others thought “Belair funk.” John generously actually opens a 3rd bottle. OK, not corked. Not very good, but not corked. A little funky, a little volatile, a lot thin. C/C+ > > > > 1983 Ch. Certan-Giraud > > This more than makes up for the trio of Belairs. I’m not sure I’ve ever had a Certan-Giraud, and expectations were low. Whoa, baby. Lovely midbodied Pomerol, sweet fruit, earth, mushrooms, very good length. A-/B+ > > > > Flight #5 > > 1983 Ch. La Fleur de *** > > Weird lactic meets ferric nose, develops volatility as it sits, strange charred notes, not good. C > > > > 1983 Ch. Latour a Pomerol > > Rustic, tea and plums, not really exciting but solid. B > > > > Flight #6 > > 1983 Ch. l’Evangile > > Lovely, long, if not as lush as I remembered. Dark fruit and mocha, good balance. Some felt it started to fall apart with some time in glass, but I enjoyed till end (it had been double-decanted about 5 PM). A contender for WOTN for me. A- > > > > 1983 Ch. Lafleur > > Spirity/pruney nose, brutish, tannic as all hell. Better than the La Fleur de *** but clearly overextracted. B-/C+ > > > > Not to be satisfied with a mere 17 bottles opened, John served a blind red. Clearly a Bordeaux, fairly tightly wound, needs air. Lots of herbal notes, midbodied. I think of guessing Sociando, but pretty sure John doesn’t cellar that. He says he wishes he had given more air, but I enjoy the 1966 Ch. Beychevelle > > B+ > > > > Well, certainly at this point what is needed is another bottle of Champagne. The NV Bereche Brut Champagne is very very good, and I wished I didn’t have to spit, Very crisp, dry, flavorful. I’ll look to buy this B+/A- > > > > Great night, with loads of interesting wines, and loads of interesting opinions. Can’t wait to see View from the Cellar for John’s opinions. > > > > Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency. |
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