TN: SOBER at Dan's with great Bordeaux, Burgs, and Riojas
Tuesday was a scorcher, but luckily Dan had good AC as he hosted SOBER at his home. He greeted us with smoked salmon and a nice cheese assortment, and the
1989 Deutz Blanc de Blancs (from mag). Good, long, baked bread and ripe pears, toasty notes. B+ Onto blind wines: White Blind Flight Franco nailed Bordeaux immediately, took a while to get wines/vintages #1- Lemongrass, coconut, good length, I liked more than table. 1985 Laville Haut Brion B+ #2- Nose of wax, wood, & citrus; sweeter/riper than its flightmate, a bit spirity on palate. B+ on nose, B- on palate 1983 Haut Brion Blanc B Nice wines, but not at current pricing. Red Blind Flight #1 This took a while, no one immediately thought Burgundy on #1 #1- Some VA, black fruit, spice, tannic. I think people who know the wine thought an unrepresentative showing. Once the VA calmed down I thought good wine, though not very like any GC Burg from good vintage I’ve had. 1993 Drouhin Romanee St Vivant B #2- Sweet fruit, sandalwood, sturdy. 1993 Bouchard “La Romanee” B+ Red Blind Flight #2 #1 Full, rich, ripe, herby, smoky, beautiful balance. 1987 Mugneret Ruchottes-Chambertin A- #2 A bit leaner, but tasty. Black fruits, coffee, I’m shocked how delicious this is once vintage is revealed. 1986 Mugneret Ruchottes-Chambertin B+/A- A really nice porcini ravioli in sage butter dish appeared about here. Wanting to savor the Burgs, John asked for a Champagne intermezzo, Dan “Mr. Champagne” obliged. Hmmm, slightly exotic fruit, some sweetness, fennel, a little funky. John gets producer on first guess. NV Andre Beafort Grand Cru Ambonnay (2008 disgorgement) B+ Red Blind Flight #3 Aha, Bordeaux. Takes a few guesses (and arguments over whether Graves is Left Bank) #1- Beautiful midbodied wine. Black fruits, cigarbox, leather, lovely balance. 1983 Domaine de Chevalier. A- #2- advanced, a touch pruney, a nice elegant styled wine underneath. Not near as good as a bottle earlier this year. 1983 Ausone B/B- Osso buco, barley, green beans- yum! Red Blind Flight #4 Another clear Bordeaux flight. #1- Someone got 70s Pauillac immediately, took a few guesses till John got wine. Elegant, sturdy, cedar & pencil lead. 1971 Les Forts de Latour B+/A- #2 Beautful, full, and elegant- wait, it’s not Pomerol? Smooth, velvety, lush yet still with structure. 1971 Magdelaine A/A- Red Blind Flight #5 #1- Powerful full masculine style of mature Bordeaux. 1967 Latour B+ #2 I was SURE this was a classic 70s CalCab. Good acids, mint/eucalyptus, red fruits, medium bodied. 1968 La Rioja Alta “904” Rioja Riserva B+/A- Red Blind Flight #6 #1 ripe, spice, coconut, herbs. 1982 CVNE “Vina Real Rioja Riserva B+ #2 Full, rich, black cherries and coffee, herby. 1976 CVNE “Imperial” Rioja Gran Riserva A-/B+ #3- bretty- horsesweat and bandaid- over dark fruits and herbs 1978 Ch., Beaucastel Chateauneuf du Pape B- Great night with some great wines. Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency. |
TN: SOBER at Dan's with great Bordeaux, Burgs, and Riojas
On Thursday, July 18, 2013 2:30:20 PM UTC-4, DaleW wrote:
> Tuesday was a scorcher, but luckily Dan had good AC as he hosted SOBER at his home. He greeted us with smoked salmon and a nice cheese assortment, and the > > 1989 Deutz Blanc de Blancs (from mag). Good, long, baked bread and ripe pears, toasty notes. B+ > > > > Onto blind wines: > > White Blind Flight > > Franco nailed Bordeaux immediately, took a while to get wines/vintages > > #1- Lemongrass, coconut, good length, I liked more than table. 1985 Laville Haut Brion B+ > > #2- Nose of wax, wood, & citrus; sweeter/riper than its flightmate, a bit spirity on palate. B+ on nose, B- on palate 1983 Haut Brion Blanc B > > Nice wines, but not at current pricing. > > > > Red Blind Flight #1 > > This took a while, no one immediately thought Burgundy on #1 > > #1- Some VA, black fruit, spice, tannic. I think people who know the wine thought an unrepresentative showing. Once the VA calmed down I thought good wine, though not very like any GC Burg from good vintage I’ve had. 1993 Drouhin Romanee St Vivant B > > #2- Sweet fruit, sandalwood, sturdy. 1993 Bouchard “La Romanee” B+ > > > > Red Blind Flight #2 > > #1 Full, rich, ripe, herby, smoky, beautiful balance. 1987 Mugneret Ruchottes-Chambertin > > A- > > #2 A bit leaner, but tasty. Black fruits, coffee, I’m shocked how delicious this is once vintage is revealed. 1986 Mugneret Ruchottes-Chambertin B+/A- > > > > A really nice porcini ravioli in sage butter dish appeared about here. > > > > Wanting to savor the Burgs, John asked for a Champagne intermezzo, Dan “Mr. Champagne” obliged. Hmmm, slightly exotic fruit, some sweetness, fennel, a little funky. John gets producer on first guess. NV Andre Beafort Grand Cru Ambonnay (2008 disgorgement) B+ > > > > > > Red Blind Flight #3 > > Aha, Bordeaux. Takes a few guesses (and arguments over whether Graves is Left Bank) > > #1- Beautiful midbodied wine. Black fruits, cigarbox, leather, lovely balance. 1983 Domaine de Chevalier. A- > > > > #2- advanced, a touch pruney, a nice elegant styled wine underneath. Not near as good as a bottle earlier this year. 1983 Ausone B/B- > > > > Osso buco, barley, green beans- yum! > > > > Red Blind Flight #4 > > Another clear Bordeaux flight. > > #1- Someone got 70s Pauillac immediately, took a few guesses till John got wine. Elegant, sturdy, cedar & pencil lead. 1971 Les Forts de Latour B+/A- > > #2 Beautful, full, and elegant- wait, it’s not Pomerol? Smooth, velvety, lush yet still with structure. 1971 Magdelaine A/A- > > > > Red Blind Flight #5 > > #1- Powerful full masculine style of mature Bordeaux. 1967 Latour B+ > > #2 I was SURE this was a classic 70s CalCab. Good acids, mint/eucalyptus, red fruits, medium bodied. 1968 La Rioja Alta “904” Rioja Riserva B+/A- > > > > Red Blind Flight #6 > > #1 ripe, spice, coconut, herbs. 1982 CVNE “Vina Real Rioja Riserva B+ > > > > #2 Full, rich, black cherries and coffee, herby. 1976 CVNE “Imperial” Rioja Gran Riserva > > A-/B+ > > > > #3- bretty- horsesweat and bandaid- over dark fruits and herbs 1978 Ch., Beaucastel Chateauneuf du Pape B- > > > > Great night with some great wines. > > > > Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency. Nice Notes, Thanks. What was the WOTN? |
TN: SOBER at Dan's with great Bordeaux, Burgs, and Riojas
On Monday, July 22, 2013 10:37:32 AM UTC-4, Bi!! wrote:
> On Thursday, July 18, 2013 2:30:20 PM UTC-4, DaleW wrote: > > > Tuesday was a scorcher, but luckily Dan had good AC as he hosted SOBER at his home. He greeted us with smoked salmon and a nice cheese assortment, and the > > > > > > 1989 Deutz Blanc de Blancs (from mag). Good, long, baked bread and ripe pears, toasty notes. B+ > > > > > > > > > > > > Onto blind wines: > > > > > > White Blind Flight > > > > > > Franco nailed Bordeaux immediately, took a while to get wines/vintages > > > > > > #1- Lemongrass, coconut, good length, I liked more than table. 1985 Laville Haut Brion B+ > > > > > > #2- Nose of wax, wood, & citrus; sweeter/riper than its flightmate, a bit spirity on palate. B+ on nose, B- on palate 1983 Haut Brion Blanc B > > > > > > Nice wines, but not at current pricing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Red Blind Flight #1 > > > > > > This took a while, no one immediately thought Burgundy on #1 > > > > > > #1- Some VA, black fruit, spice, tannic. I think people who know the wine thought an unrepresentative showing. Once the VA calmed down I thought good wine, though not very like any GC Burg from good vintage I’ve had. 1993 Drouhin Romanee St Vivant B > > > > > > #2- Sweet fruit, sandalwood, sturdy. 1993 Bouchard “La Romanee” B+ > > > > > > > > > > > > Red Blind Flight #2 > > > > > > #1 Full, rich, ripe, herby, smoky, beautiful balance. 1987 Mugneret Ruchottes-Chambertin > > > > > > A- > > > > > > #2 A bit leaner, but tasty. Black fruits, coffee, I’m shocked how delicious this is once vintage is revealed. 1986 Mugneret Ruchottes-Chambertin B+/A- > > > > > > > > > > > > A really nice porcini ravioli in sage butter dish appeared about here. > > > > > > > > > > > > Wanting to savor the Burgs, John asked for a Champagne intermezzo, Dan “Mr. Champagne” obliged. Hmmm, slightly exotic fruit, some sweetness, fennel, a little funky. John gets producer on first guess. NV Andre Beafort Grand Cru Ambonnay (2008 disgorgement) B+ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Red Blind Flight #3 > > > > > > Aha, Bordeaux. Takes a few guesses (and arguments over whether Graves is Left Bank) > > > > > > #1- Beautiful midbodied wine. Black fruits, cigarbox, leather, lovely balance. 1983 Domaine de Chevalier. A- > > > > > > > > > > > > #2- advanced, a touch pruney, a nice elegant styled wine underneath. Not near as good as a bottle earlier this year. 1983 Ausone B/B- > > > > > > > > > > > > Osso buco, barley, green beans- yum! > > > > > > > > > > > > Red Blind Flight #4 > > > > > > Another clear Bordeaux flight. > > > > > > #1- Someone got 70s Pauillac immediately, took a few guesses till John got wine. Elegant, sturdy, cedar & pencil lead. 1971 Les Forts de Latour B+/A- > > > > > > #2 Beautful, full, and elegant- wait, it’s not Pomerol? Smooth, velvety, lush yet still with structure. 1971 Magdelaine A/A- > > > > > > > > > > > > Red Blind Flight #5 > > > > > > #1- Powerful full masculine style of mature Bordeaux. 1967 Latour B+ > > > > > > #2 I was SURE this was a classic 70s CalCab. Good acids, mint/eucalyptus, red fruits, medium bodied. 1968 La Rioja Alta “904” Rioja Riserva B+/A- > > > > > > > > > > > > Red Blind Flight #6 > > > > > > #1 ripe, spice, coconut, herbs. 1982 CVNE “Vina Real Rioja Riserva B+ > > > > > > > > > > > > #2 Full, rich, black cherries and coffee, herby. 1976 CVNE “Imperial” Rioja Gran Riserva > > > > > > A-/B+ > > > > > > > > > > > > #3- bretty- horsesweat and bandaid- over dark fruits and herbs 1978 Ch., Beaucastel Chateauneuf du Pape B- > > > > > > > > > > > > Great night with some great wines. > > > > > > > > > > > > Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency. > > > > Nice Notes, Thanks. What was the WOTN? For me, the Magdelaine. This group doesn't vote, but know both Ruchottes had advocates. |
TN: SOBER at Dan's with great Bordeaux, Burgs, and Riojas
On Monday, July 22, 2013 12:46:33 PM UTC-4, DaleW wrote:
> On Monday, July 22, 2013 10:37:32 AM UTC-4, Bi!! wrote: > > > On Thursday, July 18, 2013 2:30:20 PM UTC-4, DaleW wrote: > > > > > > > Tuesday was a scorcher, but luckily Dan had good AC as he hosted SOBER at his home. He greeted us with smoked salmon and a nice cheese assortment, and the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1989 Deutz Blanc de Blancs (from mag). Good, long, baked bread and ripe pears, toasty notes. B+ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Onto blind wines: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > White Blind Flight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Franco nailed Bordeaux immediately, took a while to get wines/vintages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #1- Lemongrass, coconut, good length, I liked more than table. 1985 Laville Haut Brion B+ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #2- Nose of wax, wood, & citrus; sweeter/riper than its flightmate, a bit spirity on palate. B+ on nose, B- on palate 1983 Haut Brion Blanc B > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice wines, but not at current pricing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Red Blind Flight #1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This took a while, no one immediately thought Burgundy on #1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #1- Some VA, black fruit, spice, tannic. I think people who know the wine thought an unrepresentative showing. Once the VA calmed down I thought good wine, though not very like any GC Burg from good vintage I’ve had. 1993 Drouhin Romanee St Vivant B > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #2- Sweet fruit, sandalwood, sturdy. 1993 Bouchard “La Romanee” B+ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Red Blind Flight #2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #1 Full, rich, ripe, herby, smoky, beautiful balance. 1987 Mugneret Ruchottes-Chambertin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #2 A bit leaner, but tasty. Black fruits, coffee, I’m shocked how delicious this is once vintage is revealed. 1986 Mugneret Ruchottes-Chambertin B+/A- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A really nice porcini ravioli in sage butter dish appeared about here.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wanting to savor the Burgs, John asked for a Champagne intermezzo, Dan “Mr. Champagne” obliged. Hmmm, slightly exotic fruit, some sweetness, fennel, a little funky. John gets producer on first guess. NV Andre Beafort Grand Cru Ambonnay (2008 disgorgement) B+ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Red Blind Flight #3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aha, Bordeaux. Takes a few guesses (and arguments over whether Graves is Left Bank) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #1- Beautiful midbodied wine. Black fruits, cigarbox, leather, lovely balance. 1983 Domaine de Chevalier. A- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #2- advanced, a touch pruney, a nice elegant styled wine underneath. Not near as good as a bottle earlier this year. 1983 Ausone B/B- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Osso buco, barley, green beans- yum! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Red Blind Flight #4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another clear Bordeaux flight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #1- Someone got 70s Pauillac immediately, took a few guesses till John got wine. Elegant, sturdy, cedar & pencil lead. 1971 Les Forts de Latour B+/A- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #2 Beautful, full, and elegant- wait, it’s not Pomerol? Smooth, velvety, lush yet still with structure. 1971 Magdelaine A/A- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Red Blind Flight #5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #1- Powerful full masculine style of mature Bordeaux. 1967 Latour B+ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #2 I was SURE this was a classic 70s CalCab. Good acids, mint/eucalyptus, red fruits, medium bodied. 1968 La Rioja Alta “904” Rioja Riserva B+/A- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Red Blind Flight #6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #1 ripe, spice, coconut, herbs. 1982 CVNE “Vina Real Rioja Riserva B+ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #2 Full, rich, black cherries and coffee, herby. 1976 CVNE “Imperial” Rioja Gran Riserva > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A-/B+ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #3- bretty- horsesweat and bandaid- over dark fruits and herbs 1978 Ch., Beaucastel Chateauneuf du Pape B- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Great night with some great wines. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice Notes, Thanks. What was the WOTN? > > > > For me, the Magdelaine. > > This group doesn't vote, but know both Ruchottes had advocates. Thanks. Interesting, I never warmed up to Magdelaine as it always seemed to be missing something but I've nver had one as old as a 1971. The 1983 Chevalier is a wine that I've had a few times and Chevalier (rouge) in general seemed to be hit or miss to me. |
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