A very good week of wine, with none truly expensive. I recently picked up
orders from Chambers St, Wine Cellarage, and Grapes, and was happy with
results.

With grilled shell steaks, sauteed mushrooms, potatoes, & salad, the 2011
Vissoux/Chermette "Poncie" Fleurie. Really showing well, black raspberries
and mocha, tangy acids, light supple tannins, this could age but I really
enjoy this night. B++

Thursday was angel hair pasta with mussels and zucchini, cooking wine was
the
2011 Bella Vita Pinot Grigio (Veneto). Clean, crisp, citrusy, what more
could you want in $8 PG? B-

But with dinner we actually drank the 2009 Pascal Cotat "Les Monts Damnes"
Sancerre. A bit much for the food, but a very good wine. Ripe almost
tropical fruit at first, though it seems more citrusy with time. Balanced
acids, good length, very good if not great by Cotat standards. B+

There was a cooking wine the following night too, the 2011 Iche "Les
Heretiques" - recipe needed 3 cups, and I didn't take notes of the remaining
1+ ounce, but it was as usual a satisfyingly real wine.

Dinner was coq au vin, carrot and zucchini saute, & salad w/avocado,. with:
2009 Drouhin " Clos des Godeaux" Savigny-les-Beaune
Midweight, elegant yet with firm tannin and fruit, black cherry and smoke,
classy for a village wine. B++

With sockeye with herbs, quinoa, asparagus:
2008 Clemens Busch Pundericher Marienburg Grosses Gewaches
OK, this could make a GG believer out of me. White pit fruits, ginger,
flowers, with an acidic backbone and minerally finish. Very long. Delicious.
A-

With pork tenderloin roasted with a kind of ratatouille-ish assortment of
vegetables:
2012 Les Baux Gourgonnier Rose
Good value, classic Provencal rose flavors, good food wine. B

With toor dal, okra, & salad
2010 Clemens Busch Pundericher Marienburg Riesling Kabinett
Clean, fresh, tasty Kabinett but without the excitement of its GG brother
(of course, considerably cheaper!). B

With stirfried beef with Sichuan pepper & salt, a combination of asparagus,
squash & snowpeas in a soy dressing, and brown rice:
2006 Peybonhomme les Tours (1er Cotes du Blaye)
OK, this isn't going to be a good ringer in a Pomerol tasting. But very nice
for what it is- a rather oldfashioned/classic minor Bordeaux, with plums,
tobacco, and cedar. Drinking well. B/B-

With "oven-fried" catfish, quinoa, and leftover dal:
2011 Villalin Quincy
There was a period where I drank a fair amount of Quincy (mostly Mardon,but
others too) but I don't think I've had one in a few years.I should! This was
quite delightful- Granny Smith and gooseberry, a little freshly mowed grass,
good acids, good finish. Lighter than a good Sancerre, but thats what I
expect from Quincy. B/B+

With salmon with radish leaf pesto, green beans, brown rice, watercress:
2011 Foillard "Cotes du Py" Morgon
Fresh, silky, all red berries and earth. There's a bit of tannin, good
acids, nice length, this seems a bit tight but very nice wine underneath. B+
(with potential)


Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine,
B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a
party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of
objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.

On Apr 19, 12:20*pm, "Dale W" > wrote:
> A very good week of wine, with none truly expensive. I recently picked up
> orders from Chambers St, Wine Cellarage, and Grapes, and was happy with
> results.
>
> With grilled shell steaks, sauteed mushrooms, potatoes, & salad, the 2011
> Vissoux/Chermette "Poncie" Fleurie. Really showing well, black raspberries
> and mocha, tangy acids, light supple tannins, this could age but I really
> enjoy this night. B++
>
> Thursday was angel hair pasta with mussels and zucchini, cooking wine was
> the
> 2011 Bella Vita Pinot Grigio (Veneto). Clean, crisp, citrusy, what more
> could you want in $8 PG? B-
>
> But with dinner we actually drank the 2009 Pascal Cotat "Les Monts Damnes"
> Sancerre. A bit much for the food, but a very good wine. Ripe almost
> tropical fruit at first, though it seems more citrusy with time. Balanced
> acids, good length, very good if not great by Cotat standards. B+
>
> There was a cooking wine the following night too, the 2011 Iche "Les
> Heretiques" - recipe needed 3 cups, and I didn't take notes of the remaining
> 1+ ounce, but it was as usual a satisfyingly real wine.
>
> Dinner was coq au vin, carrot and zucchini saute, & *salad w/avocado,. with:
> 2009 Drouhin " Clos des Godeaux" Savigny-les-Beaune
> Midweight, elegant yet with firm tannin and fruit, black cherry and smoke,
> classy for a village wine. B++
>
> With sockeye with herbs, quinoa, asparagus:
> 2008 Clemens Busch Pundericher Marienburg Grosses Gewaches
> OK, this could make a GG believer out of me. White pit fruits, ginger,
> flowers, with an acidic backbone and minerally finish. Very long. Delicious.
> A-
>
> With pork tenderloin roasted with a kind of ratatouille-ish assortment of
> vegetables:
> 2012 Les Baux Gourgonnier Rose
> Good value, classic Provencal rose flavors, good food wine. B
>
> With toor dal, okra, & *salad
> 2010 Clemens Busch *Pundericher Marienburg Riesling Kabinett
> Clean, fresh, tasty Kabinett but without the excitement of its GG brother
> (of course, considerably cheaper!). B
>
> With stirfried beef with Sichuan pepper & salt, a combination of *asparagus,
> squash & snowpeas in a soy dressing, *and brown rice:
> 2006 Peybonhomme les Tours (1er Cotes du Blaye)
> OK, this isn't going to be a good ringer in a Pomerol tasting. But very nice
> for what it is- a rather oldfashioned/classic minor Bordeaux, with plums,
> tobacco, and cedar. Drinking well. B/B-
>
> With "oven-fried" catfish, quinoa, and leftover dal:
> 2011 Villalin Quincy
> There was a period where I drank a fair amount of Quincy (mostly Mardon,but
> others too) but I don't think I've had one in a few years.I should! This was
> quite delightful- Granny Smith and gooseberry, a little freshly mowed grass,
> good acids, good finish. Lighter than a good Sancerre, but thats what I
> expect from Quincy. B/B+
>
> With salmon with radish leaf pesto, green beans, brown rice, watercress:
> 2011 Foillard "Cotes du Py" Morgon
> Fresh, silky, all red berries and earth. There's a bit of tannin, good
> acids, nice length, this seems a bit tight but very nice wine underneath. B+
> (with potential)
>
> Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine,
> B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a
> party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of
> objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.

Dale-I don't know if you're seeing the Domaine de Montille wines
(especially the reds) in NYC but I recently found a stash of the
2009's and at $30 or less they are exceptional values from Burgundy.
I posted a note yesterday on the 2009 Beaune 1er Les Sizies that was
really tasty at $30...alas the post seems to be lost in cyberspace.

"Bi!!" > wrote in message
...
Dale-I don't know if you're seeing the Domaine de Montille wines
(especially the reds) in NYC but I recently found a stash of the
2009's and at $30 or less they are exceptional values from Burgundy.
I posted a note yesterday on the 2009 Beaune 1er Les Sizies that was
really tasty at $30...alas the post seems to be lost in cyberspace.
----------------------------------
I recently opened an '05 Les Sizies from Pascal Prunier-Bonheur and wished
I'd bought more than 3. It was $40 so not quite the bargain you found.
I will be cycling around that area next month.
Graham

In article >,
"Dale W" > wrote:

> A very good week of wine, with none truly expensive. I recently picked up
> orders from Chambers St, Wine Cellarage, and Grapes, and was happy with
> results.
>
> With grilled shell steaks, sauteed mushrooms, potatoes, & salad, the 2011
> Vissoux/Chermette "Poncie" Fleurie. Really showing well, black raspberries
> and mocha, tangy acids, light supple tannins, this could age but I really
> enjoy this night. B++
>
> Thursday was angel hair pasta with mussels and zucchini, cooking wine was
> the
> 2011 Bella Vita Pinot Grigio (Veneto). Clean, crisp, citrusy, what more
> could you want in $8 PG? B-
>
> But with dinner we actually drank the 2009 Pascal Cotat "Les Monts Damnes"
> Sancerre. A bit much for the food, but a very good wine. Ripe almost
> tropical fruit at first, though it seems more citrusy with time. Balanced
> acids, good length, very good if not great by Cotat standards. B+
>
> There was a cooking wine the following night too, the 2011 Iche "Les
> Heretiques" - recipe needed 3 cups, and I didn't take notes of the remaining
> 1+ ounce, but it was as usual a satisfyingly real wine.
>
> Dinner was coq au vin, carrot and zucchini saute, & salad w/avocado,. with:
> 2009 Drouhin " Clos des Godeaux" Savigny-les-Beaune
> Midweight, elegant yet with firm tannin and fruit, black cherry and smoke,
> classy for a village wine. B++
>
> With sockeye with herbs, quinoa, asparagus:
> 2008 Clemens Busch Pundericher Marienburg Grosses Gewaches
> OK, this could make a GG believer out of me. White pit fruits, ginger,
> flowers, with an acidic backbone and minerally finish. Very long. Delicious.
> A-
>
> With pork tenderloin roasted with a kind of ratatouille-ish assortment of
> vegetables:
> 2012 Les Baux Gourgonnier Rose
> Good value, classic Provencal rose flavors, good food wine. B
>
> With toor dal, okra, & salad
> 2010 Clemens Busch Pundericher Marienburg Riesling Kabinett
> Clean, fresh, tasty Kabinett but without the excitement of its GG brother
> (of course, considerably cheaper!). B
>
> With stirfried beef with Sichuan pepper & salt, a combination of asparagus,
> squash & snowpeas in a soy dressing, and brown rice:
> 2006 Peybonhomme les Tours (1er Cotes du Blaye)
> OK, this isn't going to be a good ringer in a Pomerol tasting. But very nice
> for what it is- a rather oldfashioned/classic minor Bordeaux, with plums,
> tobacco, and cedar. Drinking well. B/B-
>
> With "oven-fried" catfish, quinoa, and leftover dal:
> 2011 Villalin Quincy
> There was a period where I drank a fair amount of Quincy (mostly Mardon,but
> others too) but I don't think I've had one in a few years.I should! This was
> quite delightful- Granny Smith and gooseberry, a little freshly mowed grass,
> good acids, good finish. Lighter than a good Sancerre, but thats what I
> expect from Quincy. B/B+
>
> With salmon with radish leaf pesto, green beans, brown rice, watercress:
> 2011 Foillard "Cotes du Py" Morgon
> Fresh, silky, all red berries and earth. There's a bit of tannin, good
> acids, nice length, this seems a bit tight but very nice wine underneath. B+
> (with potential)
>
>
> Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine,
> B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a
> party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of
> objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.

So what are you recommending as an everyday table wine for around $5?

--
Remember Rachel Corrie
<http://www.rachelcorrie.org/>

Welcome to the New America.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg>

On May 11, 2:34*pm, Billy > wrote:
> In article >,
> *"Dale W" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > A very good week of wine, with none truly expensive. I recently picked up
> > orders from Chambers St, Wine Cellarage, and Grapes, and was happy with
> > results.
>
> > With grilled shell steaks, sauteed mushrooms, potatoes, & salad, the 2011
> > Vissoux/Chermette "Poncie" Fleurie. Really showing well, black raspberries
> > and mocha, tangy acids, light supple tannins, this could age but I really
> > enjoy this night. B++
>
> > Thursday was angel hair pasta with mussels and zucchini, cooking wine was
> > the
> > 2011 Bella Vita Pinot Grigio (Veneto). Clean, crisp, citrusy, what more
> > could you want in $8 PG? B-
>
> > But with dinner we actually drank the 2009 Pascal Cotat "Les Monts Damnes"
> > Sancerre. A bit much for the food, but a very good wine. Ripe almost
> > tropical fruit at first, though it seems more citrusy with time. Balanced
> > acids, good length, very good if not great by Cotat standards. B+
>
> > There was a cooking wine the following night too, the 2011 Iche "Les
> > Heretiques" - recipe needed 3 cups, and I didn't take notes of the remaining
> > 1+ ounce, but it was as usual a satisfyingly real wine.
>
> > Dinner was coq au vin, carrot and zucchini saute, & *salad w/avocado,.. with:
> > 2009 Drouhin " Clos des Godeaux" Savigny-les-Beaune
> > Midweight, elegant yet with firm tannin and fruit, black cherry and smoke,
> > classy for a village wine. B++
>
> > With sockeye with herbs, quinoa, asparagus:
> > 2008 Clemens Busch Pundericher Marienburg Grosses Gewaches
> > OK, this could make a GG believer out of me. White pit fruits, ginger,
> > flowers, with an acidic backbone and minerally finish. Very long. Delicious.
> > A-
>
> > With pork tenderloin roasted with a kind of ratatouille-ish assortment of
> > vegetables:
> > 2012 Les Baux Gourgonnier Rose
> > Good value, classic Provencal rose flavors, good food wine. B
>
> > With toor dal, okra, & *salad
> > 2010 Clemens Busch *Pundericher Marienburg Riesling Kabinett
> > Clean, fresh, tasty Kabinett but without the excitement of its GG brother
> > (of course, considerably cheaper!). B
>
> > With stirfried beef with Sichuan pepper & salt, a combination of *asparagus,
> > squash & snowpeas in a soy dressing, *and brown rice:
> > 2006 Peybonhomme les Tours (1er Cotes du Blaye)
> > OK, this isn't going to be a good ringer in a Pomerol tasting. But very nice
> > for what it is- a rather oldfashioned/classic minor Bordeaux, with plums,
> > tobacco, and cedar. Drinking well. B/B-
>
> > With "oven-fried" catfish, quinoa, and leftover dal:
> > 2011 Villalin Quincy
> > There was a period where I drank a fair amount of Quincy (mostly Mardon,but
> > others too) but I don't think I've had one in a few years.I should! This was
> > quite delightful- Granny Smith and gooseberry, a little freshly mowed grass,
> > good acids, good finish. Lighter than a good Sancerre, but thats what I
> > expect from Quincy. B/B+
>
> > With salmon with radish leaf pesto, green beans, brown rice, watercress:
> > 2011 Foillard "Cotes du Py" Morgon
> > Fresh, silky, all red berries and earth. There's a bit of tannin, good
> > acids, nice length, this seems a bit tight but very nice wine underneath. B+
> > (with potential)
>
> > Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine,
> > B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a
> > party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of
> > objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.
>
> So what are you recommending as an everyday table wine for around $5?
>
> --
> Remember Rachel Corrie
> <http://www.rachelcorrie.org/>
>
> Welcome to the New America.
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg>

You would be hard pressed to find any wine these days at $5 a bottle.

On Monday, May 13, 2013 11:39:22 AM UTC-6, Bi!! wrote:
> On May 11, 2:34*pm, Billy > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
>
> > *"Dale W" > wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > > A very good week of wine, with none truly expensive. I recently picked up
>
> > > orders from Chambers St, Wine Cellarage, and Grapes, and was happy with
>
> > > results.
>
> >
>
> > > With grilled shell steaks, sauteed mushrooms, potatoes, & salad, the 2011
>
> > > Vissoux/Chermette "Poncie" Fleurie. Really showing well, black raspberries
>
> > > and mocha, tangy acids, light supple tannins, this could age but I really
>
> > > enjoy this night. B++
>
> >
>
> > > Thursday was angel hair pasta with mussels and zucchini, cooking wine was
>
> > > the
>
> > > 2011 Bella Vita Pinot Grigio (Veneto). Clean, crisp, citrusy, what more
>
> > > could you want in $8 PG? B-
>
> >
>
> > > But with dinner we actually drank the 2009 Pascal Cotat "Les Monts Damnes"
>
> > > Sancerre. A bit much for the food, but a very good wine. Ripe almost
>
> > > tropical fruit at first, though it seems more citrusy with time. Balanced
>
> > > acids, good length, very good if not great by Cotat standards. B+
>
> >
>
> > > There was a cooking wine the following night too, the 2011 Iche "Les
>
> > > Heretiques" - recipe needed 3 cups, and I didn't take notes of the remaining
>
> > > 1+ ounce, but it was as usual a satisfyingly real wine.
>
> >
>
> > > Dinner was coq au vin, carrot and zucchini saute, & *salad w/avocado,. with:
>
> > > 2009 Drouhin " Clos des Godeaux" Savigny-les-Beaune
>
> > > Midweight, elegant yet with firm tannin and fruit, black cherry and smoke,
>
> > > classy for a village wine. B++
>
> >
>
> > > With sockeye with herbs, quinoa, asparagus:
>
> > > 2008 Clemens Busch Pundericher Marienburg Grosses Gewaches
>
> > > OK, this could make a GG believer out of me. White pit fruits, ginger,
>
> > > flowers, with an acidic backbone and minerally finish. Very long. Delicious.
>
> > > A-
>
> >
>
> > > With pork tenderloin roasted with a kind of ratatouille-ish assortment of
>
> > > vegetables:
>
> > > 2012 Les Baux Gourgonnier Rose
>
> > > Good value, classic Provencal rose flavors, good food wine. B
>
> >
>
> > > With toor dal, okra, & *salad
>
> > > 2010 Clemens Busch *Pundericher Marienburg Riesling Kabinett
>
> > > Clean, fresh, tasty Kabinett but without the excitement of its GG brother
>
> > > (of course, considerably cheaper!). B
>
> >
>
> > > With stirfried beef with Sichuan pepper & salt, a combination of *asparagus,
>
> > > squash & snowpeas in a soy dressing, *and brown rice:
>
> > > 2006 Peybonhomme les Tours (1er Cotes du Blaye)
>
> > > OK, this isn't going to be a good ringer in a Pomerol tasting. But very nice
>
> > > for what it is- a rather oldfashioned/classic minor Bordeaux, with plums,
>
> > > tobacco, and cedar. Drinking well. B/B-
>
> >
>
> > > With "oven-fried" catfish, quinoa, and leftover dal:
>
> > > 2011 Villalin Quincy
>
> > > There was a period where I drank a fair amount of Quincy (mostly Mardon,but
>
> > > others too) but I don't think I've had one in a few years.I should! This was
>
> > > quite delightful- Granny Smith and gooseberry, a little freshly mowed grass,
>
> > > good acids, good finish. Lighter than a good Sancerre, but thats what I
>
> > > expect from Quincy. B/B+
>
> >
>
> > > With salmon with radish leaf pesto, green beans, brown rice, watercress:
>
> > > 2011 Foillard "Cotes du Py" Morgon
>
> > > Fresh, silky, all red berries and earth. There's a bit of tannin, good
>
> > > acids, nice length, this seems a bit tight but very nice wine underneath. B+
>
> > > (with potential)
>
> >
>
> > > Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine,
>
> > > B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a
>
> > > party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of
>
> > > objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.
>
> >
>
> > So what are you recommending as an everyday table wine for around $5?
>
> >
>
> > --
>
> > Remember Rachel Corrie
>
> > <http://www.rachelcorrie.org/>
>
> >
>
> > Welcome to the New America.
>
> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg>
>
>
>
> You would be hard pressed to find any wine these days at $5 a bottle.

Well, there is always 3 buck chuck.

On May 13, 3:58*pm, lleichtman > wrote:
> On Monday, May 13, 2013 11:39:22 AM UTC-6, Bi!! wrote:
> > On May 11, 2:34*pm, Billy > wrote:
>
> > > In article >,
>
> > > *"Dale W" > wrote:
>
> > > > A very good week of wine, with none truly expensive. I recently picked up
>
> > > > orders from Chambers St, Wine Cellarage, and Grapes, and was happy with
>
> > > > results.
>
> > > > With grilled shell steaks, sauteed mushrooms, potatoes, & salad, the 2011
>
> > > > Vissoux/Chermette "Poncie" Fleurie. Really showing well, black raspberries
>
> > > > and mocha, tangy acids, light supple tannins, this could age but I really
>
> > > > enjoy this night. B++
>
> > > > Thursday was angel hair pasta with mussels and zucchini, cooking wine was
>
> > > > the
>
> > > > 2011 Bella Vita Pinot Grigio (Veneto). Clean, crisp, citrusy, what more
>
> > > > could you want in $8 PG? B-
>
> > > > But with dinner we actually drank the 2009 Pascal Cotat "Les Monts Damnes"
>
> > > > Sancerre. A bit much for the food, but a very good wine. Ripe almost
>
> > > > tropical fruit at first, though it seems more citrusy with time. Balanced
>
> > > > acids, good length, very good if not great by Cotat standards. B+
>
> > > > There was a cooking wine the following night too, the 2011 Iche "Les
>
> > > > Heretiques" - recipe needed 3 cups, and I didn't take notes of the remaining
>
> > > > 1+ ounce, but it was as usual a satisfyingly real wine.
>
> > > > Dinner was coq au vin, carrot and zucchini saute, & *salad w/avocado,. with:
>
> > > > 2009 Drouhin " Clos des Godeaux" Savigny-les-Beaune
>
> > > > Midweight, elegant yet with firm tannin and fruit, black cherry and smoke,
>
> > > > classy for a village wine. B++
>
> > > > With sockeye with herbs, quinoa, asparagus:
>
> > > > 2008 Clemens Busch Pundericher Marienburg Grosses Gewaches
>
> > > > OK, this could make a GG believer out of me. White pit fruits, ginger,
>
> > > > flowers, with an acidic backbone and minerally finish. Very long. Delicious.
>
> > > > A-
>
> > > > With pork tenderloin roasted with a kind of ratatouille-ish assortment of
>
> > > > vegetables:
>
> > > > 2012 Les Baux Gourgonnier Rose
>
> > > > Good value, classic Provencal rose flavors, good food wine. B
>
> > > > With toor dal, okra, & *salad
>
> > > > 2010 Clemens Busch *Pundericher Marienburg Riesling Kabinett
>
> > > > Clean, fresh, tasty Kabinett but without the excitement of its GG brother
>
> > > > (of course, considerably cheaper!). B
>
> > > > With stirfried beef with Sichuan pepper & salt, a combination of *asparagus,
>
> > > > squash & snowpeas in a soy dressing, *and brown rice:
>
> > > > 2006 Peybonhomme les Tours (1er Cotes du Blaye)
>
> > > > OK, this isn't going to be a good ringer in a Pomerol tasting. But very nice
>
> > > > for what it is- a rather oldfashioned/classic minor Bordeaux, with plums,
>
> > > > tobacco, and cedar. Drinking well. B/B-
>
> > > > With "oven-fried" catfish, quinoa, and leftover dal:
>
> > > > 2011 Villalin Quincy
>
> > > > There was a period where I drank a fair amount of Quincy (mostly Mardon,but
>
> > > > others too) but I don't think I've had one in a few years.I should! This was
>
> > > > quite delightful- Granny Smith and gooseberry, a little freshly mowed grass,
>
> > > > good acids, good finish. Lighter than a good Sancerre, but thats what I
>
> > > > expect from Quincy. B/B+
>
> > > > With salmon with radish leaf pesto, green beans, brown rice, watercress:
>
> > > > 2011 Foillard "Cotes du Py" Morgon
>
> > > > Fresh, silky, all red berries and earth. There's a bit of tannin, good
>
> > > > acids, nice length, this seems a bit tight but very nice wine underneath. B+
>
> > > > (with potential)
>
> > > > Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine,
>
> > > > B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a
>
> > > > party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of
>
> > > > objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.
>
> > > So what are you recommending as an everyday table wine for around $5?
>
> > > --
>
> > > Remember Rachel Corrie
>
> > > <http://www.rachelcorrie.org/>
>
> > > Welcome to the New America.
>
> > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg>
>
> > You would be hard pressed to find any wine these days at $5 a bottle.
>
> Well, there is always 3 buck chuck.

It's about $7 in Ohio these days.

On 5/14/2013 9:29 AM, Bi!! wrote:
> On May 13, 3:58 pm, lleichtman > wrote:
>> On Monday, May 13, 2013 11:39:22 AM UTC-6, Bi!! wrote:
>>> On May 11, 2:34 pm, Billy > wrote:


>>
>>> You would be hard pressed to find any wine these days at $5 a bottle.
>>
>> Well, there is always 3 buck chuck.
>
> It's about $7 in Ohio these days.
>

at that price point you can get some decent malbec at Costco under the
Kirkland label ($6.99 at the Jacksonville FL store)
--
Joseph Coulter

On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 7:29:03 AM UTC-6, Bi!! wrote:
> On May 13, 3:58*pm, lleichtman > wrote:
>
> > On Monday, May 13, 2013 11:39:22 AM UTC-6, Bi!! wrote:
>
> > > On May 11, 2:34*pm, Billy > wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > > In article >,
>
> >
>
> > > > *"Dale W" > wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > > > A very good week of wine, with none truly expensive. I recently picked up
>
> >
>
> > > > > orders from Chambers St, Wine Cellarage, and Grapes, and was happy with
>
> >
>
> > > > > results.
>
> >
>
> > > > > With grilled shell steaks, sauteed mushrooms, potatoes, & salad, the 2011
>
> >
>
> > > > > Vissoux/Chermette "Poncie" Fleurie. Really showing well, black raspberries
>
> >
>
> > > > > and mocha, tangy acids, light supple tannins, this could age but I really
>
> >
>
> > > > > enjoy this night. B++
>
> >
>
> > > > > Thursday was angel hair pasta with mussels and zucchini, cooking wine was
>
> >
>
> > > > > the
>
> >
>
> > > > > 2011 Bella Vita Pinot Grigio (Veneto). Clean, crisp, citrusy, what more
>
> >
>
> > > > > could you want in $8 PG? B-
>
> >
>
> > > > > But with dinner we actually drank the 2009 Pascal Cotat "Les Monts Damnes"
>
> >
>
> > > > > Sancerre. A bit much for the food, but a very good wine. Ripe almost
>
> >
>
> > > > > tropical fruit at first, though it seems more citrusy with time. Balanced
>
> >
>
> > > > > acids, good length, very good if not great by Cotat standards. B+
>
> >
>
> > > > > There was a cooking wine the following night too, the 2011 Iche "Les
>
> >
>
> > > > > Heretiques" - recipe needed 3 cups, and I didn't take notes of the remaining
>
> >
>
> > > > > 1+ ounce, but it was as usual a satisfyingly real wine.
>
> >
>
> > > > > Dinner was coq au vin, carrot and zucchini saute, & *salad w/avocado,. with:
>
> >
>
> > > > > 2009 Drouhin " Clos des Godeaux" Savigny-les-Beaune
>
> >
>
> > > > > Midweight, elegant yet with firm tannin and fruit, black cherry and smoke,
>
> >
>
> > > > > classy for a village wine. B++
>
> >
>
> > > > > With sockeye with herbs, quinoa, asparagus:
>
> >
>
> > > > > 2008 Clemens Busch Pundericher Marienburg Grosses Gewaches
>
> >
>
> > > > > OK, this could make a GG believer out of me. White pit fruits, ginger,
>
> >
>
> > > > > flowers, with an acidic backbone and minerally finish. Very long. Delicious.
>
> >
>
> > > > > A-
>
> >
>
> > > > > With pork tenderloin roasted with a kind of ratatouille-ish assortment of
>
> >
>
> > > > > vegetables:
>
> >
>
> > > > > 2012 Les Baux Gourgonnier Rose
>
> >
>
> > > > > Good value, classic Provencal rose flavors, good food wine. B
>
> >
>
> > > > > With toor dal, okra, & *salad
>
> >
>
> > > > > 2010 Clemens Busch *Pundericher Marienburg Riesling Kabinett
>
> >
>
> > > > > Clean, fresh, tasty Kabinett but without the excitement of its GG brother
>
> >
>
> > > > > (of course, considerably cheaper!). B
>
> >
>
> > > > > With stirfried beef with Sichuan pepper & salt, a combination of *asparagus,
>
> >
>
> > > > > squash & snowpeas in a soy dressing, *and brown rice:
>
> >
>
> > > > > 2006 Peybonhomme les Tours (1er Cotes du Blaye)
>
> >
>
> > > > > OK, this isn't going to be a good ringer in a Pomerol tasting. But very nice
>
> >
>
> > > > > for what it is- a rather oldfashioned/classic minor Bordeaux, with plums,
>
> >
>
> > > > > tobacco, and cedar. Drinking well. B/B-
>
> >
>
> > > > > With "oven-fried" catfish, quinoa, and leftover dal:
>
> >
>
> > > > > 2011 Villalin Quincy
>
> >
>
> > > > > There was a period where I drank a fair amount of Quincy (mostly Mardon,but
>
> >
>
> > > > > others too) but I don't think I've had one in a few years.I should! This was
>
> >
>
> > > > > quite delightful- Granny Smith and gooseberry, a little freshly mowed grass,
>
> >
>
> > > > > good acids, good finish. Lighter than a good Sancerre, but thats what I
>
> >
>
> > > > > expect from Quincy. B/B+
>
> >
>
> > > > > With salmon with radish leaf pesto, green beans, brown rice, watercress:
>
> >
>
> > > > > 2011 Foillard "Cotes du Py" Morgon
>
> >
>
> > > > > Fresh, silky, all red berries and earth. There's a bit of tannin, good
>
> >
>
> > > > > acids, nice length, this seems a bit tight but very nice wine underneath. B+
>
> >
>
> > > > > (with potential)
>
> >
>
> > > > > Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine,
>
> >
>
> > > > > B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a
>
> >
>
> > > > > party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of
>
> >
>
> > > > > objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.
>
> >
>
> > > > So what are you recommending as an everyday table wine for around $5?
>
> >
>
> > > > --
>
> >
>
> > > > Remember Rachel Corrie
>
> >
>
> > > > <http://www.rachelcorrie.org/>
>
> >
>
> > > > Welcome to the New America.
>
> >
>
> > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg>
>
> >
>
> > > You would be hard pressed to find any wine these days at $5 a bottle.
>
> >
>
> > Well, there is always 3 buck chuck.
>
>
>
> It's about $7 in Ohio these days.

And now Chuck inflation. Still crap wines.

In article
>,
"Bi!!" > wrote:

> On May 13, 3:58*pm, lleichtman > wrote:
> > On Monday, May 13, 2013 11:39:22 AM UTC-6, Bi!! wrote:
> > > On May 11, 2:34*pm, Billy > wrote:
> >
> > > > In article >,
> >
> > > > *"Dale W" > wrote:
> >
> > > > > A very good week of wine, with none truly expensive. I recently
> > > > > picked up
> >
> > > > > orders from Chambers St, Wine Cellarage, and Grapes, and was happy
> > > > > with
> >
> > > > > results.
> >
> > > > > With grilled shell steaks, sauteed mushrooms, potatoes, & salad, the
> > > > > 2011
> >
> > > > > Vissoux/Chermette "Poncie" Fleurie. Really showing well, black
> > > > > raspberries
> >
> > > > > and mocha, tangy acids, light supple tannins, this could age but I
> > > > > really
> >
> > > > > enjoy this night. B++
> >
> > > > > Thursday was angel hair pasta with mussels and zucchini, cooking wine
> > > > > was
> >
> > > > > the
> >
> > > > > 2011 Bella Vita Pinot Grigio (Veneto). Clean, crisp, citrusy, what
> > > > > more
> >
> > > > > could you want in $8 PG? B-
> >
> > > > > But with dinner we actually drank the 2009 Pascal Cotat "Les Monts
> > > > > Damnes"
> >
> > > > > Sancerre. A bit much for the food, but a very good wine. Ripe almost
> >
> > > > > tropical fruit at first, though it seems more citrusy with time.
> > > > > Balanced
> >
> > > > > acids, good length, very good if not great by Cotat standards. B+
> >
> > > > > There was a cooking wine the following night too, the 2011 Iche "Les
> >
> > > > > Heretiques" - recipe needed 3 cups, and I didn't take notes of the
> > > > > remaining
> >
> > > > > 1+ ounce, but it was as usual a satisfyingly real wine.
> >
> > > > > Dinner was coq au vin, carrot and zucchini saute, & *salad
> > > > > w/avocado,. with:
> >
> > > > > 2009 Drouhin " Clos des Godeaux" Savigny-les-Beaune
> >
> > > > > Midweight, elegant yet with firm tannin and fruit, black cherry and
> > > > > smoke,
> >
> > > > > classy for a village wine. B++
> >
> > > > > With sockeye with herbs, quinoa, asparagus:
> >
> > > > > 2008 Clemens Busch Pundericher Marienburg Grosses Gewaches
> >
> > > > > OK, this could make a GG believer out of me. White pit fruits,
> > > > > ginger,
> >
> > > > > flowers, with an acidic backbone and minerally finish. Very long.
> > > > > Delicious.
> >
> > > > > A-
> >
> > > > > With pork tenderloin roasted with a kind of ratatouille-ish
> > > > > assortment of
> >
> > > > > vegetables:
> >
> > > > > 2012 Les Baux Gourgonnier Rose
> >
> > > > > Good value, classic Provencal rose flavors, good food wine. B
> >
> > > > > With toor dal, okra, & *salad
> >
> > > > > 2010 Clemens Busch *Pundericher Marienburg Riesling Kabinett
> >
> > > > > Clean, fresh, tasty Kabinett but without the excitement of its GG
> > > > > brother
> >
> > > > > (of course, considerably cheaper!). B
> >
> > > > > With stirfried beef with Sichuan pepper & salt, a combination of
> > > > > *asparagus,
> >
> > > > > squash & snowpeas in a soy dressing, *and brown rice:
> >
> > > > > 2006 Peybonhomme les Tours (1er Cotes du Blaye)
> >
> > > > > OK, this isn't going to be a good ringer in a Pomerol tasting. But
> > > > > very nice
> >
> > > > > for what it is- a rather oldfashioned/classic minor Bordeaux, with
> > > > > plums,
> >
> > > > > tobacco, and cedar. Drinking well. B/B-
> >
> > > > > With "oven-fried" catfish, quinoa, and leftover dal:
> >
> > > > > 2011 Villalin Quincy
> >
> > > > > There was a period where I drank a fair amount of Quincy (mostly
> > > > > Mardon,but
> >
> > > > > others too) but I don't think I've had one in a few years.I should!
> > > > > This was
> >
> > > > > quite delightful- Granny Smith and gooseberry, a little freshly mowed
> > > > > grass,
> >
> > > > > good acids, good finish. Lighter than a good Sancerre, but thats what
> > > > > I
> >
> > > > > expect from Quincy. B/B+
> >
> > > > > With salmon with radish leaf pesto, green beans, brown rice,
> > > > > watercress:
> >
> > > > > 2011 Foillard "Cotes du Py" Morgon
> >
> > > > > Fresh, silky, all red berries and earth. There's a bit of tannin,
> > > > > good
> >
> > > > > acids, nice length, this seems a bit tight but very nice wine
> > > > > underneath. B+
> >
> > > > > (with potential)
> >
> > > > > Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent
> > > > > wine,
> >
> > > > > B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at
> > > > > a
> >
> > > > > party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of
> >
> > > > > objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.
> >
> > > > So what are you recommending as an everyday table wine for around $5?
> >
> > > > --
> >
> > > > Remember Rachel Corrie
> >
> > > > <http://www.rachelcorrie.org/>
> >
> > > > Welcome to the New America.
> >
> > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg>
> >
> > > You would be hard pressed to find any wine these days at $5 a bottle.
> >
> > Well, there is always 3 buck chuck.
>
> It's about $7 in Ohio these days.

Is that a Trader Joe's outlet? The Chuck Shaw Chardonnay seems to always
be drinkable, but nothing you look forward to. I've given up on the
Chuck Shaw reds. If Chuck sells for $7 in Ohio, someone is making a hell
of a mark-up. In the Bay Area TJ's it sells for $2.50. I usually have
wine with dinner, but even half a bottle/dinner/person gets expensive.
I guess if you want to drink cheap, but good, you need to live in
France, Germany, Spain, or Italy. The wines I like have gotten crazy
expensive, so I drink my $6 Ch. du Buisson, Bordeaux, or Ferme Julian
rosé at $5, or a TJ chardonnay at $10. Sadly, I started with Leoville
las Cases at $16 in the 70s.

--
Remember Rachel Corrie
<http://www.rachelcorrie.org/>

Welcome to the New America.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg>