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Christmas eve is chicken enchilada time for us so match wise neve the
best, so I just decided to go for something I like but normally wouldn't have so 2003 Ribera de Duero reserva from de Restia a full rich temparnillo that went well actually great night. Christmas day, I finally got the OK for pinot for Christmas and thought that the best way I could do it was with Chalone the estate bottling. we had a 2004 and a 2007. The 2004 was a closeout so always a bit of a worry is it over the hill? The short answer, NO. the 2004 was richer, smoother and perfectly suited for drinking. The 07 was comparatively green with a hint of sourness in the finish. To be honest I wouldn't have noticed if it hadn't been in comparison, but it was there. Value wise the Ribera was a steal at $18-$19 (IIRC may have been a tad less definitely not more) while the Chalone at 30 and 35 respectively was a bit pricy. The Spanish red keep on keeping on. And speaking of Spanish. my best Christmas present (we don't really do givts so much anymore) was a bottle of Cardenal Mendoza Brandy de Jerez Solers Gran Reserva from Romate. this brandy is smooth but the really nice thing is that the underlying wine is evident - in the finish you can taste the Sherry and it is velvety smooth to boot. . . |
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jcoulter wrote in news:[email protected]
email.me: Christmas eve... We drank our only bottle of Wind Gap Pinot Noir Woodruff Vineyard 2008 on Christmas Eve, to go with a veal roll (stuffed with dried apricots, plums, etc). Very, very good, and totally opposed to my idea of a California Pinot Noir, because it was bone dry, only 12,3% alc, with a very low colour and really spicy on the nose. An excellent and very interesting wine that I was very happy to put on the table on such a night. Only 440 bottles produced Christmas day... For us, it was La Rioja Alta 904 Gran Reserva 1978 which I double decanted at home before going to my in-laws. Very bright colour, with a lot of old church notes, incense and excellent balance in the mouth. No fruit, and I think I would rather drink such a wine 10 years earlier. And speaking of Spanish. my best Christmas present (we don't really do givts so much anymore) was a bottle of Cardenal Mendoza Brandy de Jerez Solers Gran Reserva from Romate. this brandy is smooth but the really nice thing is that the underlying wine is evident - in the finish you can taste the Sherry and it is velvety smooth to boot. . . Brandy de Jerez should be about the aging in old Sherry casks (typically Oloroso). Some people love it, some people hate it. I am glad you are drinking to help the Spanish Balance of Payments!!! s. |
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On 12/26/2012 9:36 AM, santiago wrote:
jcoulter wrote in news:[email protected] email.me: Brandy de Jerez should be about the aging in old Sherry casks (typically Oloroso). Some people love it, some people hate it. I am glad you are drinking to help the Spanish Balance of Payments!!! s. El gusto es mio ![]() |
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On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:36:42 AM UTC-7, jcoulter wrote:
Christmas eve is chicken enchilada time for us so match wise neve the best, so I just decided to go for something I like but normally wouldn't have so 2003 Ribera de Duero reserva from de Restia a full rich temparnillo that went well actually great night. Christmas day, I finally got the OK for pinot for Christmas and thought that the best way I could do it was with Chalone the estate bottling. we had a 2004 and a 2007. The 2004 was a closeout so always a bit of a worry is it over the hill? The short answer, NO. the 2004 was richer, smoother and perfectly suited for drinking. The 07 was comparatively green with a hint of sourness in the finish. To be honest I wouldn't have noticed if it hadn't been in comparison, but it was there. Value wise the Ribera was a steal at $18-$19 (IIRC may have been a tad less definitely not more) while the Chalone at 30 and 35 respectively was a bit pricy. The Spanish red keep on keeping on. And speaking of Spanish. my best Christmas present (we don't really do givts so much anymore) was a bottle of Cardenal Mendoza Brandy de Jerez Solers Gran Reserva from Romate. this brandy is smooth but the really nice thing is that the underlying wine is evident - in the finish you can taste the Sherry and it is velvety smooth to boot. . . For us chicken enchiladas mean good margaritas, rarely wine. |
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On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:36:49 AM UTC-5, santiago wrote:
jcoulter wrote in news:[email protected] email.me: Christmas eve... We drank our only bottle of Wind Gap Pinot Noir Woodruff Vineyard 2008 on Christmas Eve, to go with a veal roll (stuffed with dried apricots, plums, etc). Very, very good, and totally opposed to my idea of a California Pinot Noir, because it was bone dry, only 12,3% alc, with a very low colour and really spicy on the nose. An excellent and very interesting wine that I was very happy to put on the table on such a night. Only 440 bottles produced Christmas day... For us, it was La Rioja Alta 904 Gran Reserva 1978 which I double decanted at home before going to my in-laws. Very bright colour, with a lot of old church notes, incense and excellent balance in the mouth. No fruit, and I think I would rather drink such a wine 10 years earlier. And speaking of Spanish. my best Christmas present (we don't really do givts so much anymore) was a bottle of Cardenal Mendoza Brandy de Jerez Solers Gran Reserva from Romate. this brandy is smooth but the really nice thing is that the underlying wine is evident - in the finish you can taste the Sherry and it is velvety smooth to boot. . . Brandy de Jerez should be about the aging in old Sherry casks (typically Oloroso). Some people love it, some people hate it. I am glad you are drinking to help the Spanish Balance of Payments!!! s. Wind Gap sounds lovely. Thanks to both of you for notes |
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