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Zin Notes
We did a Zinfandel blind tasting recently, a departure for most of us
that rarely drink zins (although I have been a long time fan). First wine was a starter, not in theme. 2009 Vincent Raimbault Vouvray – initial impression was sulphur and more sulphur, but it did slowly blow off leaving some melon in its wake. Sweetish entry but OK acidity. so so. 1979 Monterey Peninsula Winery Wilpete Farms Willow Creek Zinfandel (13.9% - I figured that I’d fool them and bring a really venerable bottle that I’d picked up in the early 80s at the winery when I’d been down in Monterey racing old sports cars. Well, it wasn’t really at the winery, it was at a small sales room off the main road where all sorts of things were sold. I recall standing next to a rather large (and loud) lady at the tasting room bar. We were tasting through a range of single vineyard low production zins. She said (well, more bellowed) that the ‘Monterey Nights’ (or whatever forgettable name it was called) red wine she’d just tasted was ‘Damned fine” and that she’d buy a gallon jug….. This wine was huge when young and needed many years to become drinkable. I’d opened a bottle a few years ago and it was corked, so I crossed my fingers and tried my last one. The wine was almost pinot noir in colour, although without the brick tinge normally found with mature pinots. The mature nose had some spice interest. The wine slid across the tongue smoothly (as, I suppose, had the Monterey Nights, come to that, but I refrained from finding out back in the day), and had lost all tannin, but retained some cassis flavour and medium length. Everyone pretty much liked it. 2007 Peter Franus Napa Zin – instant blueberries in the glass, sweet entry, soft and long (not the desired combination for every occasion…) finishing sweet. Vanilla was the one note that pretty much dominated this. Not a big fan. 1997 Turley Old Vines Zin – the first of a string of Turleys, this one is the blended version and it ultimately failed to impress me, although I immediately (perhaps more luck than skill) said ‘Turley?’ as soon as I smelled it. Very ripe raspberry fruit nose clean on palate with pretty good balance and length but something not quite right in the middle. May just be getting to old? 15.1% 1997 Turley Duarte Zin (Contra Costa County) – I had to pull this out (my back up bottle) when the first one appeared. Medium colour (as have a lot of these wines at this age), big earthy bramble/blackberry nose with some white pepper and spice that followed through on palate. several rungs up from the Old Vines. 15.5% 1997 Turley Dogtown Zin (Lodi) – perhaps the most pleasurable of the three with a fairly sweet berry fruit nose, spicy balanced middle, and long soft finish. 2007 Hendry Block 24 Primitivo – dusty fruit nose with hints of anise, huge concentration on palate, and quite sweet. Not sure if this is going to improve or if it is as good as it will get. Not my style. Presumably used the Primitivo label in an attempt to attract attention. 2007 Scherrer Old and Mature Zin (Alexander Valley) – on the other hand, this IS my style of zin. A Rhone/earthy element in the nose and more raspberry fruit, nicely rounded and sweet on palate with very decent finish. Nice wine. 1995 Rosenblum Late Harvest Zin – sweet simple nose, with concentration overwhelming any complexity, very sweet in the mouth, pleasant, and with the fruit settling in as red rather than black after a bit. Not bad – I could almost but not quite forgive them for using the same sort of foo-foo tall, small diameter half size bottle that many of our BC wineries use for their hyped up so called ice wines. If you want a zin to serve in little chocolate cups, this is it. Also not my style of zin, and a waste of grapes that might otherwise have been used in a decent dry wine. I preferred some of the old Shenandoah zins that were often high proof, less sweet, but came across as better more interesting zin based dessert wines, or Andrew Quady’s older ‘Ports’ before he went away from zin and into port varietals (I recall a 1978 Lot 2 that was particularly memorable.) Heck, I probably prefer Ficklin to the Rosenblum, although I haven’t tasted their product recently. Mixed but very interesting bag. |
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Zin Notes
On Feb 26, 10:56*am, "Bill S." > wrote:
> We did a Zinfandel blind tasting recently, a departure for most of us > that rarely drink zins (although I have been a long time fan). > 1979 Monterey Peninsula Winery Wilpete Farms Willow Creek Zinfandel > (13.9% - I figured that I’d fool them and bring a really venerable > bottle that I’d picked up in the early 80s at the winery when I’d been > down in Monterey racing old sports cars. *Well, it wasn’t really at > the winery, it was at a small sales room off the main road where all > sorts of things were sold. *I recall standing next to a rather large > (and loud) lady at the tasting room bar. We were tasting through a > range of single vineyard low production zins. She said (well, more > bellowed) that the ‘Monterey Nights’ (or whatever forgettable name it > was called) red wine she’d just tasted was ‘Damned fine” and that > she’d buy a gallon jug….. > > This wine was huge when young and needed many years to become > drinkable. I’d opened a bottle a few years ago and it was corked, so I > crossed my fingers and tried my last one. The wine was almost pinot > noir in colour, although without the brick tinge normally found with > mature pinots. The mature nose had some spice interest. The wine slid > across the tongue smoothly (as, I suppose, had the Monterey Nights, > come to that, but I refrained from finding out back in the day), and > had lost all tannin, but retained some cassis flavour and medium > length. Everyone pretty much liked it. I once had a few bottles of Monterey Peninsula Winery wines. My early impression of some of their Zinfandels and Cabernet Sauvignons from the 1970s was that they often were as big and dark as some wines from David Bruce, and that says a lot. You needed to make an appointment with a dentist for cleaning your teeth before drinking some of these young monsters :-). I only still have 1 bottle of their 1976 Cabernet Sauvignon and a few half bottles of their Ferrero Ranch Late Harvest 1976 Zinfandel which is dryish. I have not tasted these for several years. |
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Bill S. wrote:
> We did a Zinfandel blind tasting recently, a departure for most of us > that rarely drink zins (although I have been a long time fan). > 1979 Monterey Peninsula Winery Wilpete Farms Willow Creek Zinfandel > (13.9% - I figured that I’d fool them and bring a really venerable > bottle that I’d picked up in the early 80s at the winery when I’d been > down in Monterey racing old sports cars. Well, it wasn’t really at > the winery, it was at a small sales room off the main road where all > sorts of things were sold. I recall standing next to a rather large > (and loud) lady at the tasting room bar. We were tasting through a > range of single vineyard low production zins. She said (well, more > bellowed) that the ‘Monterey Nights’ (or whatever forgettable name it > was called) red wine she’d just tasted was ‘Damned fine” and that > she’d buy a gallon jug….. > > This wine was huge when young and needed many years to become > drinkable. I’d opened a bottle a few years ago and it was corked, so I > crossed my fingers and tried my last one. The wine was almost pinot > noir in colour, although without the brick tinge normally found with > mature pinots. The mature nose had some spice interest. The wine slid > across the tongue smoothly (as, I suppose, had the Monterey Nights, > come to that, but I refrained from finding out back in the day), and > had lost all tannin, but retained some cassis flavour and medium > length. Everyone pretty much liked it. Fun tasting, Bill, and great story to boot! As I no doubt have mentioned before, when I moved to NYC (with two cases of wine in tow) I had to adjust to the lack of availability of many of the wines I'd been drinking in CA. In '87 or '88, though, Jean and I stumbled across a cache of '79 Monterey Peninsula Zin in a small, otherwise forgettable liquor store on Broadway near Columbia. For the next few months, we drank down their stock which at that point was rounding into shape and quite drinkable (owing no doubt to the advanced aging due to poor storage) > 1997 Turley Old Vines Zin – the first of a string of Turleys, this one IIRC, '97 was the vintage in which Turley turned down the volume slightly and started making more balanced wines. Interesting to hear how these have aged. > 1995 Rosenblum Late Harvest Zin – sweet simple nose, with > concentration overwhelming any complexity, very sweet in the mouth, > pleasant, and with the fruit settling in as red rather than black > after a bit. Not bad – I could almost but not quite forgive them for > using the same sort of foo-foo tall, small diameter half size bottle > that many of our BC wineries use for their hyped up so called ice > wines. If you want a zin to serve in little chocolate cups, this is > it. Also not my style of zin, and a waste of grapes that might > otherwise have been used in a decent dry wine. In the old days ('70s) these "late harvest" Zins were often the result of a stuck fermentation. These days, with all the designer yeasts available to winemakers, I don't know if stuck fermentations still happen, but perhaps we can explain this wine away as an unfortunate accident ;-) Mark Lipton |
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