TN: wines back at home- French, Spanish, and US
 

On Jul 20, 10:33*am, Mark Lipton > wrote:
> On 7/20/11 9:55 AM, DaleW wrote:
>
> > Sunday Betsy headed to Mendocino, that night no wine with dinner at in-
> > laws, then redeye home (after a lovely interlude at the Sacromento
> > airport "yes sir, you do have a confirmed seat, but we don't have a
> > ticket number" ). *Monday I caught up at work, then had a quiet
> > evening with the dog, bbq chicken, sauteed spinach, and the NV (2010)
> > Lapierre "X" Raisins Gaulois. For me this is kickapoo joy juice-
> > vibrant, fun, uncomplicated. Fresh acidity, pretty red fruit, easy to
> > like. B+
>
> Gouleyant, as the French would say. *I liked the IX quite a bit, but the
> X is just that much more fun.
>
> > 1985 Gundlach-Bundschu "Rhinefarm Vineyard Vintage Reserve" Cabernet
> > Sauvignon
> > I was afraid that this would be dead, but it had plenty of fruit. What
> > it didn't have (for me) was much interest. Low acid, resolved tannins
> > let to feeling of no structure, some tertiary leaves/forest floor
> > notes but no real complexity, red plum fruit with a hint of prune.
> > Others liked more, but to me this is not an example of why you age
> > wine 25 years. . C+
>
> I've never considered Gundlach-Bundschu as one of the better producers.
> *Because of their location and memorable name, they've long been a
> favorite stop for Sonoma wine tourists and that doesn't usually provide
> much incentive to make ageworthy wines, sad to say.
>
> Mark Lipton
>
> --
> alt.food.wine FAQ: *http://winefaq.cwdjr.net

Amen to that Mark. I had a friend who moved to Sonoma back in the
early 80's and was sending me Gundlach-Bundschu (he called it Good
Luck Bunny Shoes) wines and I found them to be charmless, weak and
diluted.

TN: wines back at home- French, Spanish, and US
 

On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 08:27:56 -0700 (PDT), "Bi!!" >
wrote:

>On Jul 20, 10:33*am, Mark Lipton > wrote:
>> On 7/20/11 9:55 AM, DaleW wrote:
>>
>> > Sunday Betsy headed to Mendocino, that night no wine with dinner at in-
>> > laws, then redeye home (after a lovely interlude at the Sacromento
>> > airport "yes sir, you do have a confirmed seat, but we don't have a
>> > ticket number" ). *Monday I caught up at work, then had a quiet
>> > evening with the dog, bbq chicken, sauteed spinach, and the NV (2010)
>> > Lapierre "X" Raisins Gaulois. For me this is kickapoo joy juice-
>> > vibrant, fun, uncomplicated. Fresh acidity, pretty red fruit, easy to
>> > like. B+
>>
>> Gouleyant, as the French would say. *I liked the IX quite a bit, but the
>> X is just that much more fun.
>>
>> > 1985 Gundlach-Bundschu "Rhinefarm Vineyard Vintage Reserve" Cabernet
>> > Sauvignon
>> > I was afraid that this would be dead, but it had plenty of fruit. What
>> > it didn't have (for me) was much interest. Low acid, resolved tannins
>> > let to feeling of no structure, some tertiary leaves/forest floor
>> > notes but no real complexity, red plum fruit with a hint of prune.
>> > Others liked more, but to me this is not an example of why you age
>> > wine 25 years. . C+
>>
>> I've never considered Gundlach-Bundschu as one of the better producers.
>> *Because of their location and memorable name, they've long been a
>> favorite stop for Sonoma wine tourists and that doesn't usually provide
>> much incentive to make ageworthy wines, sad to say.
>>
>> Mark Lipton
>>
>> --
>> alt.food.wine FAQ: *http://winefaq.cwdjr.net
>
>Amen to that Mark. I had a friend who moved to Sonoma back in the
>early 80's and was sending me Gundlach-Bundschu (he called it Good
>Luck Bunny Shoes) wines and I found them to be charmless, weak and
>diluted.

And thought it was just me. After several years of trying the wines
because of the relatively well-known name, I finally got convinced
that they weren't what I expected or liked.