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Christmas Day we had dinner for 10. We had the rest of the gravlax I
had made as a starter, plus Marcy brought cherry tomatoes stuffed with
herbed chevre. Wine was the 1995 Pommery Grand Cru Brut Champagne.
Quiet mousse, mature, applepie with a little cinnamon. Soft acidity,
light yeast notes. B-

One guest had brought several bottles, I opened one for the red-
centrics as we mingled before sitting down. The 2005 Ch. Olivier
(Pessac-Leognan) had pretty decent dark berry fruit, but currently
it's buried under a wall of toasty oak. Others really liked, but I
found this hard to drink now, though maybe it'll integrate. C+/C for
now.

We had a 2 bird dinner- roast goose with bramble gravy, parsnips,
carrots, and turnips, plus capon. Sides included apple sauce, mashed
potatoes, and a pomegranite and persimmon salad. Betsy did a great
job, everything delicious, and we had some wine, too:

1990 Ch. La Louviere (Pessac-Louviere)
(since I was opening an '88, Dave's birthyear, I decided to also open
BY wines for the 2 under-30 guests) A lovely showing for this classic
non-trophy Graves. Red and black currants, a little leather, a lot of
tobacco. Earthy, mid-bodied, very pretty yet sturdy wine. A-

2000 Bouchard "Vigne de L'Enfant Jesus" Beaune-Greves 1er
What better time than Christmas to open a baby Jesus? Drinking well,
light to midbodied Pinot, clean cherry fruit, earth, some vanilla.
It's the latter that is a bit much, this is showing a bit more oak
than fruit can comfortably sustain.B/B-

1988 Ch. Lagrange (St. Julien)
Benefits from some decanter time, still showing a bit of the 88
tannin. Cassis, pencil shavings, damp earth. Medium bodied, good
length, showing well once it has some air. B+/A-

1970 Bel Air Marquis d'Aligre (Margaux)
Not a great wine but solid example of old Bordeaux. Red fruit with a
bit of a pruney edge (but not extreme), tobacco, ash. Resolved
tannins, not very long, but hanging on. B-/B

There was also a sadly corked bottle of 1986 Talbot

There was also a Yule Log from the bakery where David works, and a
Derby Pie (pecan), plus a cheese tray with Mahon and Muenster
d'Alsace. Was originally planning the 75 Fonseca, but when the Talbot
was corked my backup (for Jenny's birthyear), was the 1986 Graham
Malvedos Port, so we switched to that. Big, raisiny, running a bit
hot (even for port). Sweet, aromatic, long. B

Really nice Christmas-especially the food!

Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent*
wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't*
drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no*
promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.**



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On Dec 27, 10:13*am, DaleW wrote:
Christmas Day we had dinner for 10. We had the rest of the gravlax I
had made as a starter, plus Marcy brought cherry tomatoes stuffed with
herbed chevre. Wine was the 1995 Pommery Grand Cru Brut Champagne.
Quiet mousse, mature, applepie with a little cinnamon. Soft acidity,
light yeast notes. B-

One guest had brought several bottles, I opened one for the red-
centrics as we mingled before sitting down. The 2005 Ch. Olivier
(Pessac-Leognan) had pretty decent dark berry fruit, but currently
it's buried under a wall of toasty oak. Others really liked, but I
found this hard to drink now, though maybe it'll integrate. C+/C for
now.

We had a 2 bird dinner- roast goose with bramble gravy, parsnips,
carrots, and turnips, plus capon. Sides included apple sauce, mashed
potatoes, and a pomegranite and persimmon salad. Betsy did a great
job, everything delicious, and we had some wine, too:

1990 Ch. La Louviere (Pessac-Louviere)
(since I was opening an '88, Dave's birthyear, I decided to also open
BY wines for the *2 under-30 guests) A lovely showing for this classic
non-trophy Graves. Red and black currants, a little leather, a lot of
tobacco. Earthy, mid-bodied, very pretty yet sturdy wine. A-

2000 Bouchard "Vigne de L'Enfant Jesus" Beaune-Greves 1er
What better time than Christmas to open a baby Jesus? Drinking well,
light to midbodied Pinot, clean cherry fruit, earth, some vanilla.
It's the latter that is a bit much, this is showing a bit more oak
than fruit can comfortably sustain.B/B-

1988 Ch. Lagrange (St. Julien)
Benefits from some decanter time, still showing a bit of the 88
tannin. Cassis, pencil shavings, damp earth. Medium bodied, good
length, showing well once it has some air. B+/A-

1970 Bel Air Marquis d'Aligre (Margaux)
Not a great wine but solid example of old Bordeaux. Red fruit with a
bit of a pruney edge (but not extreme), tobacco, ash. Resolved
tannins, not very long, but hanging on. B-/B

There was also a sadly corked bottle of 1986 Talbot

There was also a Yule Log from the bakery where David works, and a
Derby Pie (pecan), plus a cheese tray with Mahon and Muenster
d'Alsace. Was originally planning the 75 Fonseca, but when the Talbot
was corked my *backup (for Jenny's birthyear), was the 1986 Graham
Malvedos Port, so we switched to that. *Big, raisiny, running *a bit
hot (even for port). Sweet, aromatic, long. B

Really nice Christmas-especially the food!

Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent*
wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't*
drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no*
promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.**


oops, that should be a re the Talbot!
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 07:13:16 -0800 (PST), DaleW
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2000 Bouchard "Vigne de L'Enfant Jesus" Beaune-Greves 1er
What better time than Christmas to open a baby Jesus? Drinking well,
light to midbodied Pinot, clean cherry fruit, earth, some vanilla.
It's the latter that is a bit much, this is showing a bit more oak
than fruit can comfortably sustain.B/B-


Dale, I have the 01 of this. Am I in for a bit of furniture in my
wine?
Joseph Coulter
Joseph Coulter Cruises and Vacations
www.josephcoulter.com
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On Dec 27, 12:49*pm, Joseph Coulter wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 07:13:16 -0800 (PST), DaleW
wrote:

2000 Bouchard "Vigne de L'Enfant Jesus" Beaune-Greves 1er
What better time than Christmas to open a baby Jesus? Drinking well,
light to midbodied Pinot, clean cherry fruit, earth, some vanilla.
It's the latter that is a bit much, this is showing a bit more oak
than fruit can comfortably sustain.B/B-


Dale, I have the 01 of this. Am I in for a bit of furniture in my
wine?
Joseph Coulter
Joseph Coulter Cruises and Vacationswww.josephcoulter.com


I don't have a firm sense of a Bouchard style, but tend to find some
oak. Maybe the comparative lightness of the 00 vintage made this more
apparent. I don't really have a sense of 01 in Beaune, I mostly bought
CdNuits. So no real clue, sorry.
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On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:08:18 -0800 (PST), DaleW
wrote:

On Dec 27, 12:49*pm, Joseph Coulter wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 07:13:16 -0800 (PST), DaleW
wrote:

2000 Bouchard "Vigne de L'Enfant Jesus" Beaune-Greves 1er
What better time than Christmas to open a baby Jesus? Drinking well,
light to midbodied Pinot, clean cherry fruit, earth, some vanilla.
It's the latter that is a bit much, this is showing a bit more oak
than fruit can comfortably sustain.B/B-


Dale, I have the 01 of this. Am I in for a bit of furniture in my
wine?
Joseph Coulter
Joseph Coulter Cruises and Vacationswww.josephcoulter.com


I don't have a firm sense of a Bouchard style, but tend to find some
oak. Maybe the comparative lightness of the 00 vintage made this more
apparent. I don't really have a sense of 01 in Beaune, I mostly bought
CdNuits. So no real clue, sorry.

Guess I will have to drink it to find out, tough job but I am up to
it, but not today :-)


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