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Whingeing Ninja 11-10-2004 03:20 AM

Safer cork removal
 
The dangers of an errant sparkling wine cork:

>http://tinyurl.com/54cnm<


Alternatively you could simply ensure the bottle is pointed away from
you and anyone else in the vicinity.


Wn


Pumbaa 11-10-2004 02:21 PM

Yes, apply the same safety methods that are taught by the National Rifle
Association. 1. Do not point the gun (in this case the sparkling wine) at
anything you do not want to shoot 2. Do not handle guns (sparkling wine) if
you have been drinking! You may, however, shoot out a window with a cork if
you are not careful. I have owned guns for fifty years and once shot a hole
in the bedroom floor. Always consider a gun or a bottle of sparkling to be
loaded.

What is next? California and Mass State wine safety laws or a ban on
assault wine.Would the gun Nazis consider a bottle of sparkling wine an
assault weapon?"


"Whingeing Ninja" > wrote in message
...
> The dangers of an errant sparkling wine cork:
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/54cnm<

>
> Alternatively you could simply ensure the bottle is pointed away from
> you and anyone else in the vicinity.
>
>
> Wn
>




Max Hauser 12-10-2004 08:19 AM

"Dick R." in ...
> . . . In my experience
> it's always easy to remove the cork on a sparkling wine. Just
> ease out the cork until you hear a gentle "pop", no explosions,
> no foam, no wine on the ceiling.


That is one of the good ways, if I may so say. Actually, removing a cork
offers the same options as LTI System Identification. A hiss, a bang, or a
chirp. (Those are the three kinds of classic test inputs you use to scope
out the behavior of many acoustical, electrical, or other contrivances.)
With Champagne, some situations call for a hiss, some a bang, even a chirp
(or gentle "pop"). It is easy to select among them, with practice. Many
times when serving Champagne I have solicitously asked "what would you like
to hear?"

(Wine on the ceiling, also, is nothing if you have ever seen what happens
when a very slow-cooked stew in a pressure cooker encounters a blocked steam
outlet and slowly, quietly, inexorably, builds tension, unnoticed,
unsuspected, relentless, inescapable, till at last the structure can stand
it no longer and the relief seal explodes and the contents exit under
cataclysmic pressure -- huge vegetables, pieces of meat, excessively floured
sauce -- through an orifice less than a centimeter across. _Horribile
dictu._ But that's another story.)

For more on the principles of system identification look at comp.dsp or
search under "Detection, Estimation and Modulation Theory," à la Harry L.
Van Trees.

-- Max



Dick R. 13-10-2004 07:01 PM

Max Hauser wrote:
> "Dick R." in ...
>>. . . In my experience
>> it's always easy to remove the cork on a sparkling wine. Just
>>ease out the cork until you hear a gentle "pop", no explosions,
>>no foam, no wine on the ceiling.

>
> That is one of the good ways, if I may so say. Actually, removing a cork
> offers the same options as LTI System Identification. A hiss, a bang, or a
> chirp. (Those are the three kinds of classic test inputs you use to scope
> out the behavior of many acoustical, electrical, or other contrivances.)
> With Champagne, some situations call for a hiss, some a bang, even a chirp
> (or gentle "pop"). It is easy to select among them, with practice. Many
> times when serving Champagne I have solicitously asked "what would you like
> to hear?"

I dunno, just fill my glass. :-)
> (Wine on the ceiling, also, is nothing if you have ever seen what happens
> when a very slow-cooked stew in a pressure cooker encounters a blocked steam
> outlet and slowly, quietly, inexorably, builds tension, unnoticed,
> unsuspected, relentless, inescapable, till at last the structure can stand
> it no longer and the relief seal explodes and the contents exit under
> cataclysmic pressure -- huge vegetables, pieces of meat, excessively floured
> sauce -- through an orifice less than a centimeter across. _Horribile
> dictu._ But that's another story.)

Sounds tragic. Gives kitchen cleanup a whole new meaning.
> For more on the principles of system identification look at comp.dsp or
> search under "Detection, Estimation and Modulation Theory," à la Harry L.
> Van Trees.

Maybe not, I'll just stick with the "gentle pop".

Thanks, Max, for a :-) for the day.
Dick R.





Dan the Man 14-10-2004 02:31 AM

Michael Pronay > wrote in message >...
> Whingeing Ninja > wrote:
>
> >>http://tinyurl.com/54cnm<

>
> > Alternatively you could simply ensure the bottle is pointed away
> > from you and anyone else in the vicinity.

>
> Idiocy, sorry. You open the bottle securing the cork all the time
> with your hand so it never can fly away. Period.
>
> M.


Right. Just twist it slo o o w ly and you're in business.

Dan-O

Hunt 16-10-2004 03:17 AM

In article >, says...
>
>Whingeing Ninja > wrote:
>
>>>http://tinyurl.com/54cnm<

>
>> Alternatively you could simply ensure the bottle is pointed away
>> from you and anyone else in the vicinity.

>
>Idiocy, sorry. You open the bottle securing the cork all the time
>with your hand so it never can fly away. Period.
>
>M.


Absolutely!!!!!! When a good friend began opening a magnum of Roederer on my
deck, I observed that he removed the cage and foil, and then reached for
something on a nearby table. I bolted out the kitchen door, but too late. The
cork dislodged and hit him just below the eye. Other than a large sore spot,
no real damage done, but 1/2" would have been a different story. He knew
better, and has successfuly opened hundreds of bottles of bubbly, but this one
did get away. Never, never, never take your hand off of the cork!

Hunt


Hunt 16-10-2004 03:21 AM

In article >, says...
>
>Yes, apply the same safety methods that are taught by the National Rifle
>Association. 1. Do not point the gun (in this case the sparkling wine) at
>anything you do not want to shoot 2. Do not handle guns (sparkling wine) if
>you have been drinking! You may, however, shoot out a window with a cork if
>you are not careful. I have owned guns for fifty years and once shot a hole
>in the bedroom floor. Always consider a gun or a bottle of sparkling to be
>loaded.
>
>What is next? California and Mass State wine safety laws or a ban on
>assault wine.Would the gun Nazis consider a bottle of sparkling wine an
>assault weapon?"
>
>
>"Whingeing Ninja" > wrote in message
. ..
>> The dangers of an errant sparkling wine cork:
>>
>> >http://tinyurl.com/54cnm<

>>
>> Alternatively you could simply ensure the bottle is pointed away from
>> you and anyone else in the vicinity.
>>
>>
>> Wn


Interesting. The example that I stated in this thread involved a US nationally
ranked practical pistol shooter, who had the AD (some would say an ND) with
the Roederer magnum. He knew better, but had a lapse. Fortunately, no scar
remained, only embarassment and a very sore cheek. Fortunately, it didn't slow
him down for the rest of the evening, as we did a ton of lovely wines.

Hunt



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