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France uncorks wine offensive
The French government is considering a plan to reclassify wine as
"nourishment," a step that would defy medical science but ease
advertising restraints and give a boost to producers who are fighting
a desperate battle for survival.
at http://www.washtimes.com/world/20040...2743-5428r.htm
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Mike wrote:
> France uncorks wine offensive
> The French government is considering a plan to reclassify wine as
> "nourishment," a step that would defy medical science but ease
> advertising restraints and give a boost to producers who are fighting
> a desperate battle for survival.
> at http://www.washtimes.com/world/20040...2743-5428r.htm


I saw they also approved the use of wood chips to get a nice
oak barrel finish.


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Mike wrote:
> France uncorks wine offensive
> The French government is considering a plan to reclassify wine as
> "nourishment," a step that would defy medical science but ease
> advertising restraints and give a boost to producers who are fighting
> a desperate battle for survival.
> at http://www.washtimes.com/world/20040...2743-5428r.htm


I saw they also approved the use of wood chips to get a nice
oak barrel finish.


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On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 20:56:52 GMT, Bill >
wrote:

>Mike wrote:
>> France uncorks wine offensive
>> The French government is considering a plan to reclassify wine as
>> "nourishment," a step that would defy medical science but ease
>> advertising restraints and give a boost to producers who are fighting
>> a desperate battle for survival.
>> at http://www.washtimes.com/world/20040...2743-5428r.htm


France is trying to follow the trend set by Spain. I think this is a
complex issue, and the wine lobby tends to use a lot of pseudo-science
to support its arguments. True, wine is a cultural thing in southern
Europe, in moderation, wine is part of eating. But this ignores that
wine is alcohol, no matter how you spin the argument, it is a problem.

I think that what France (and Southern Europe) needs is a change of
habits, and the government campaign currently plastered all over the
billboards is a big step in the right direction : "The guy driving is
the guy that did not drink". Road accidents affect even the moderate
drinker of quality wines. I honestly think that if you are driving,
you should not have more than one glass, better if none at all.


Regarding severe drunkenness, I think it is clear that foetal
malformations or other severe health problems due to alcohol abuse are
due to all kinds of alcohol, including spirits, beer and yes, wine.
MAybe not AOC wine, but wine nevertheless, and lots of it. The wine
lobby must stop trivializing this fact.


>I saw they also approved the use of wood chips to get a nice
>oak barrel finish.


Wood chips are not alllowed in quality AOCs. Have you any more info on
this? Is it allowed in Vin de Pays, Table wine?

Mike

Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France
email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail
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"Mike" > wrote in message
om...
> France uncorks wine offensive
> The French government is considering a plan to reclassify

wine as
> "nourishment," a step that would defy medical science but

ease
> advertising restraints and give a boost to producers who

are fighting
> a desperate battle for survival.
> at

http://www.washtimes.com/world/20040...2743-5428r.htm

I myself uncorked a wine offensive last week. Not only
impertinent, it was aussi showing a trace of TCA.
Cheers!
Martin




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"Mike" > wrote in message
om...
> France uncorks wine offensive
> The French government is considering a plan to reclassify

wine as
> "nourishment," a step that would defy medical science but

ease
> advertising restraints and give a boost to producers who

are fighting
> a desperate battle for survival.
> at

http://www.washtimes.com/world/20040...2743-5428r.htm

I myself uncorked a wine offensive last week. Not only
impertinent, it was aussi showing a trace of TCA.
Cheers!
Martin


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On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 20:56:52 GMT, Bill >
wrote:

>Mike wrote:
>> France uncorks wine offensive
>> The French government is considering a plan to reclassify wine as
>> "nourishment," a step that would defy medical science but ease
>> advertising restraints and give a boost to producers who are fighting
>> a desperate battle for survival.
>> at http://www.washtimes.com/world/20040...2743-5428r.htm

>
>I saw they also approved the use of wood chips to get a nice
>oak barrel finish.


Whoever thought the French would lift a page from the Reagan
Adminstration...remember when ketchup was declared a "vegetable?" I
suppose you can eat barbed wire, too, to get your daily allotment of
iron. But the darned pieces are so small it's almost tasteless.

Re driving: 20 years ago in France they had signs posted that read,
"Non merci, je conduis." (No thanks, I'm driving). Graphic of a hand
refusing a martini. Obviously, Riedel didn't have much of a lobby back
then.

JJ
(Take out the papers and "unspam")
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On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 20:56:52 GMT, Bill >
wrote:

>Mike wrote:
>> France uncorks wine offensive
>> The French government is considering a plan to reclassify wine as
>> "nourishment," a step that would defy medical science but ease
>> advertising restraints and give a boost to producers who are fighting
>> a desperate battle for survival.
>> at http://www.washtimes.com/world/20040...2743-5428r.htm

>
>I saw they also approved the use of wood chips to get a nice
>oak barrel finish.


Whoever thought the French would lift a page from the Reagan
Adminstration...remember when ketchup was declared a "vegetable?" I
suppose you can eat barbed wire, too, to get your daily allotment of
iron. But the darned pieces are so small it's almost tasteless.

Re driving: 20 years ago in France they had signs posted that read,
"Non merci, je conduis." (No thanks, I'm driving). Graphic of a hand
refusing a martini. Obviously, Riedel didn't have much of a lobby back
then.

JJ
(Take out the papers and "unspam")
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On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 20:56:52 GMT, Bill >
wrote:

>Mike wrote:
>> France uncorks wine offensive
>> The French government is considering a plan to reclassify wine as
>> "nourishment," a step that would defy medical science but ease
>> advertising restraints and give a boost to producers who are fighting
>> a desperate battle for survival.
>> at http://www.washtimes.com/world/20040...2743-5428r.htm

>
>I saw they also approved the use of wood chips to get a nice
>oak barrel finish.


Whoever thought the French would lift a page from the Reagan
Adminstration...remember when ketchup was declared a "vegetable?" I
suppose you can eat barbed wire, too, to get your daily allotment of
iron. But the darned pieces are so small it's almost tasteless.

Re driving: 20 years ago in France they had signs posted that read,
"Non merci, je conduis." (No thanks, I'm driving). Graphic of a hand
refusing a martini. Obviously, Riedel didn't have much of a lobby back
then.

JJ
(Take out the papers and "unspam")
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Mike Tommasi wrote:

> Wood chips are not alllowed in quality AOCs. Have you any more info on
> this? Is it allowed in Vin de Pays, Table wine?


I read this about two weeks ago on vacation in Florida. I will try to
find it.
B



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Mike Tommasi wrote:

> Wood chips are not alllowed in quality AOCs. Have you any more info on
> this? Is it allowed in Vin de Pays, Table wine?


I read this about two weeks ago on vacation in Florida. I will try to
find it.
B

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Mike Tommasi wrote:

> Wood chips are not alllowed in quality AOCs. Have you any more info on
> this? Is it allowed in Vin de Pays, Table wine?


I read this about two weeks ago on vacation in Florida. I will try to
find it.
B

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Mike wrote:
> France uncorks wine offensive


At least France is not repeating the Two-Buck Chuck
experiment... the headline *could* have been:

"France uncorks offensive wine"

:-)
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Mike wrote:
> France uncorks wine offensive


At least France is not repeating the Two-Buck Chuck
experiment... the headline *could* have been:

"France uncorks offensive wine"

:-)
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Mike wrote:
> France uncorks wine offensive


At least France is not repeating the Two-Buck Chuck
experiment... the headline *could* have been:

"France uncorks offensive wine"

:-)


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Martin Field wrote:

> "Mike" > wrote in message
> om...
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>>France uncorks wine offensive


> I myself uncorked a wine offensive last week. Not only
> impertinent, it was aussi showing a trace of TCA.


That was an offensive wine. A wine offensive is
something else ;-)

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Martin Field wrote:

> "Mike" > wrote in message
> om...
>
>>France uncorks wine offensive


> I myself uncorked a wine offensive last week. Not only
> impertinent, it was aussi showing a trace of TCA.


That was an offensive wine. A wine offensive is
something else ;-)

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Martin Field wrote:

> "Mike" > wrote in message
> om...
>
>>France uncorks wine offensive


> I myself uncorked a wine offensive last week. Not only
> impertinent, it was aussi showing a trace of TCA.


That was an offensive wine. A wine offensive is
something else ;-)

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Dana Myers wrote:

> At least France is not repeating the Two-Buck Chuck
> experiment... the headline *could* have been:


Yet!

> "France uncorks offensive wine"


And in a related note, the California Supreme Court decided against
Franzi last week and restated that wines labeled as Napa Valley have
to be made from 75% Napa grapes. Franzi claims that since the US
government OKed his label, California does not have a say in it and
he is now taking his appeal forward.




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Dana Myers wrote:

> At least France is not repeating the Two-Buck Chuck
> experiment... the headline *could* have been:


Yet!

> "France uncorks offensive wine"


And in a related note, the California Supreme Court decided against
Franzi last week and restated that wines labeled as Napa Valley have
to be made from 75% Napa grapes. Franzi claims that since the US
government OKed his label, California does not have a say in it and
he is now taking his appeal forward.




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